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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, I haven't.
    Thank you for the answer.

    I find fault in your ideology regarding parsers. You assume the worst of people, and it's not necessarily a fair assumption or an accurate one. Now I have to ask if you have any evidence at all to support your claims that parsers lead to the behavior you are claiming they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You said yourself that if you have the DPS to clear the dummy, you have enough for a Savage fight, so why bother to improve.
    No, I said that you had enough to not be harassed. That's a huge difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Now I have to ask if you have any evidence at all to support your claims that parsers lead to the behavior you are claiming they will.
    No, I haven't. But I didn't even said that. Jerks are jerks. Giving them a parser just give them the right to be jerks, considering how little is done when an in-game system is blatanly abused. And for that, my evidence is the votekick system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    NNo, I haven't. But I didn't even said that. Jerks are jerks. Giving them a parser just give them the right to be jerks, considering how little is done when an in-game system is blatanly abused. And for that, my evidence in the votekick system.
    False. Jerks will be jerks regardless of if they have access to a parser or not. With regards to this supposed "votekick abuse" you keep talking about, if any actions are taken against those who abuse the votekick system, there would be no way for you to know about said actions taken unless they came forward and said they were gaoled/suspended/banned for it. So how can you accurately say that nothing is being done about it?
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, I haven't. But I didn't even said that. Jerks are jerks. Giving them a parser just give them the right to be jerks, considering how little is done when an in-game system is blatanly abused. And for that, my evidence is the votekick system.
    I'm going to set aside the fact that two sentences after saying that you never claimed there'd be a behavioral shift, you say that parsers will cause a behavioral shift. EDIT: To clarify, if there is no behavioral shift from giving players parsers, then there is no problem.

    Giving a parser to the playerbase does not legitimize griefing. If anything, anyone who thinks that and acts accordingly will get hit hard by mods because now all the evidence of griefing will be in the player logs. HyoMin also makes a point that you do not and can not know about actions taken against votekick abuse.
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