Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
It was. The whole dps meta began in ARR. I don't know why people think it started in HW, I guess because it was actually necessary to clear Gordias Savage.
I did say that I had no knowledge of people attempting to Tank outside of a Tank stance back in the old, 2.x Hardcore content. Off-tanking without Defiance on or in Sword Oath, sure, but I'd personally never encountered a case where someone would try to actively Tank without their Tank stance active. It just never seemed to be viable, or possible, back then, especially not in Coil.