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  1. #1
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Gridania and Ul'dah (because Ishgard not allowed to be starting city-state :c)
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Tanks that think they are DPS, just stop...

    You know who you are. stop complaining about your DPS numbers and hold aggro with aggro builder combos, and if DPS die because of they casually ripped aggro off you then that is your fault because you didn't hold aggro on that 1 trash mob. if they used an AoE, then that is their fault. Do you job as a tank and hold aggro. Because I already am.


    EDIT: Also stop blaming the healers for not keeping you alive and blaming them for DPSing when you clearly ran too far ahead and decided to not use any cooldowns that's your own fault for being stupid, you masochists...

    2nd EDIT: Tanks will still do DPS but not as much the actual beatsticks that are the DPS role, tanks are to establish that they are the tastiest thing in front of them so that way no one else dies. Tanks should only do 2 small pulls (A.K.A. 1 big pull) in dungeons that they have run before and hope and talk it over with their healer and DPS. if you pull everything that leads to a locked door/wall and you need to kill everything as tank role decide not to use cooldowns then you either just suck at tanking or do not want any friends... Since I main DRK which is a tank job, get used to getting tough love from the community if they call you out on it... I am so sick of the whole DPS tank META to the point that SE might as well re-boot the entire forums and have everyone build it from scratch...
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    Last edited by DRKoftheAzure; 07-06-2017 at 03:22 PM.

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    Falar's Avatar
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Tanks that just spam aggro combos and stink up the place, just stop. You make content take way too long.
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Tanks that overpull just stop. You aren't invincible, nor do your healers have infinite MP (WHM excluded) so stop trying to speed up the run by pulling more than you can handle because A) Healer DPS > Tank DPS so you pulling everything and forcing your healers to non-stop spam heal you to keep you alive is not helping the run go faster, especially if it causes wipes, and B) you have no one but yourselves to blame if you end up losing aggro on something and it kills the DPS or healer because you couldn't handle that many adds.
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  4. #4
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Have you seen how big my sword is? And it fires blood lasers, of course I'm a DPS.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Have you seen how big my sword is? And it fires blood lasers, of course I'm a DPS.

    LOL Best point ever nade
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  6. #6
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Lana Arunika
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    Tanks that just spam aggro combos and stink up the place, just stop. You make content take way too long.
    You can't make me use any abilities beyond what I learn by level 30.

    I'm a True Tank, thank you. SE should just get rid of all our damage potency and make our abilities only have aggro generation, since that's what a tank needs to focus on.

    I'm really only just here so that the real heroes of the show, the DPS, can kill the boss. I really shouldn't be stepping on their toes.
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  7. #7
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    VenKitsune's Avatar
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I would agree with you... if SE didn't bake dps tools in to our jobs after 3.0. in 2.x it was very much a "Tank does tanky things" but in 3.0 they added skills like Goring blade, Royal Authority and Fell cleave. now 2 years later and we still get mostly DPS oritented skills moving up to 70 (Bloodspiller, Holy spirit) so the jobs are DESIGNED around doing extra dmg.

    Let me put it this way; in some other MMOs tanks have to constantly fight for agro 24/7 and mitigate as much as they can (instead of just tank busters). But for a system like this all of the tanks need to be redesigned, but so would enmity and every single fight in the game after lvl 50. So basically what SE has done with 4.0 is reduce our overall damage with how stats work... but not actually removing the dps skills that forced this playstyle in the first place. SE either needs to embrace the tank dps meta OR they're going to need to spend a lot of time and money redesigning tanks like i mentioned earlier.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    u kno what u right. let me take all my weaponskills off my hotbar and tank everything with flash. no, no autoattacks either, because that does damage.
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  9. #9
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Let me put it this way; in some other MMOs tanks have to constantly fight for agro 24/7 and mitigate as much as they can (instead of just tank busters). But for a system like this all of the tanks need to be redesigned, but so would enmity and every single fight in the game after lvl 50. So basically what SE has done with 4.0 is reduce our overall damage with how stats work... but not actually removing the dps skills that forced this playstyle in the first place. SE either needs to embrace the tank dps meta OR they're going to need to spend a lot of time and money redesigning tanks like i mentioned earlier.
    Yet there are those think that either remove DPS from people don't fit that role should be removed or people think that they need to buff DPS on roles that are not supposed to fit that role. WAR and DRK can get away with it due to their lore but at this rate you guys might as well request for a "Paradigm Shift" feature so play the role you want.
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  10. #10
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Tanks need to use all they skill set as every job in the game, but i really wish SE abolish the tank stance penalty and make us dealt the same DPS no matter we are OT or MT and end this stupid meta where we adding unintented stress to other jobs to squeeze extra dps, plus this means they go to have tank dps more under control and desing fights much better without fearing some go to do unexpect spikes of damage.
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