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    Limani's Avatar
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    Blake Bella'dona
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    Shiva
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    Samurai Lv 70
    It is a big difference whether you are a normal Dungeon boss with the samurai or Susano / Lakshmi Ex. Myself have both down and it is not so simple. You have to look for buffs, CDs, mechanics and your kenki.

    All those who think that the samurai is much too simple despite the great DMG output either have never played him on 70 or 62+ or his mechanics not understood. It is not just about combo to combo to use but also to use your Kenki accordingly.

    And positioning is more important with the Samurai than with the other Meeles, in my opinion, because like with the others one makes more DMG, BUT depending on the position you get also more Kenki.
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    Last edited by Limani; 07-02-2017 at 08:24 PM.
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    Oscura's Avatar
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Limani View Post
    It is a big difference whether you are a normal Dungeon boss with the samurai or Susano / Lakshmi Ex. Myself have both down and it is not so simple. You have to look for buffs, CDs, mechanics and your kenki.

    All those who think that the samurai is much too simple despite the great DMG output either have never played him on 70 or 62+ or his mechanics not understood. It is not just about combo to combo to use but also to use your Kenki accordingly.

    And positioning is more important with the Samurai than with the other Meeles, in my opinion, because like with the others one makes more DMG, BUT depending on the position you get also more Kenki.
    Monk has to look for buffs, CDs, mechanics and your greased lightning while managing your chakra gaining at pure RNG.
    Dragoon has to look for buffs, CDs, mechanics and manage a poor tethering mechanic while trying not to lose BoTD to Susano's dumb jails and dropping their 3 eyes therefore being unable to use Nastrond or LOTD.

    I really dislike that people keep saying "if you think the class is simple you don't understand it," and it's like yes, the ridiculous amount of high Samurai parses by person, it's clear that there are that many people so skilled. It couldn't possibly be anything else. Despite the fact that SAM has higher average parses than every other class. All my friends with incredibly high DPS as SAM don't understand their own class, since they claim it is easy.

    Edit: Also, yes, there is a huge difference between dungeons and EX primals. All of my SAM friends cleared the EX primals within two days of hitting 70, however. So that is irrelevant.

    Also to say that positioning is more important than other melees is absolutely ridiculous. Samurai receives no such damage buffs from positional combo bonuses. They only receive kenki. Not doing positionals properly on a Monk can vastly alter its damage. Every single one of its attacks is a positional, whereas most of Samurai's are not.
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    Daws's Avatar
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    Character
    Midnight Risk
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Limani View Post
    All those who think that the samurai is much too simple despite the great DMG output either have never played him on 70 or 62+ or his mechanics not understood. It is not just about combo to combo to use but also to use your Kenki accordingly.
    The 62+ part is key with SAM. I hit 62 yesterday and was alarmed by how much more kenki we generate with Kenki Mastery II. Thankfully we get Shinten at 62 also but I didn't think to test out the new stuff before jumping into a dungeon...it was like I put my shoes on the wrong feet. It was disorienting at first to go from a slow trickle of kenki to it spilling out and needing to get rid of it lol. Good stuff, though. If you loved SAM before 62 you'll love it more after that. The playstyle kicks up another notch.
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