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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Wasn't that what everyone said monk was, and it was in the same position you now want SAM to be in? Everyone cried monk didnt do enough DPS to support its lack of utility.
    Except that MNK only brings Mantra as group utility, which is either mandatory (very rare but happens in raid progression) or almost useless (I'm speaking before Stormblood). SAM has the slashing debuff, which is way more valuable than Mantra. So don't talk like SAM doesn't have group utility like with MNK.
    With a SAM, you can go PLD/DRK or PLD/PLD without any trouble. You can completly go without a NIN if you have a SAM. SAM is better than NIN in every way, except maybe for very particular burst phases where Trick Attack shines. Also, since the changes to NIN, running SAM+NIN doesn't make both complementary, as both will have to overlap each other's slashing debuff.

    NIN is just a glorified aggro management tool with legs at this point, as long as SAM remains so high.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    If you are wanting to nerf the only utility SAM has, then nerf every other jobs utility into the ground. No more SMN or RDM battle raise, no rdm heal, no battle litany, nothing. Make every DPS just straight up dps, and thats it.
    DPS is utility. That's new... Whatever.
    I never said that I wanted to bring SAM down so much that it would not be picked ever. Everything isn't just black and white. That's why it's called balance. The point is to balance things so every option is as good as the other. And currently that's not the case. SAM is so strong that it outshines pretty much every other DPS by a large margin.

    Of course SAM's DPS has to be high. But not that high.
    Please try to understand what balancing and nerfing mean.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 07-02-2017 at 06:44 AM.