A PSA to all upset tank players

[Indefiinable]

Yoshi P on numerous occasions has said he wants tanks to tank, healers to heal and dps to deal damage. Therefore if tanks are now taking issue with the fact they can no longer deal as much damage because they need to concentrate on taking and retaining enmity ie tanking, then yes they should start playing another class. Which would then be a totally personal choice and not one that needs forum consensus

[Kalocin]

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If you have to be using the enmity combo, it really needs to be weaved into the design of the class more or else it's boring and unfun to use, and actually feels like a punishment. I can only use Dark Knight's mana as an example. Literally everything including their shiny new toys are mana based. So when you have to stop using your job to make up for the Samurai 40% higher than other dps, it feels kind of awkward. There are multiple ways to go about this too, such as maybe blood weapon only effects the enmity combo, and suddenly it has use and weaves into the class more. I'm not a class designer so I'm not sure what would work best but right now it's like you have to hit pause, and it's not your choice.

The largest issues are not about DPS but rather the jobs are centered around dpsing except they're not really supposed to be (ie Why doesn't blood price grant an enmity buff instead of mana? Why is BS, a lvl 68 skill a damage only skill?).

[aleph_null]

Yoshi P on numerous occasions has said he wants tanks to tank, healers to heal and dps to deal damage. Therefore if tanks are now taking issue with the fact they can no longer deal as much damage because they need to concentrate on taking and retaining enmity ie tanking, then yes they should start playing another class. Which would then be a totally personal choice and not one that needs forum consensus

Yeah Yoshi doesn't like it, then what? You're delusional if you think he'd make contents hard enough to make even the best tanks in the world stay in tank stance lol. Have you seen how those "full dps stance" tanks in elysium, angered, delete monk, rushers play? If you even tried to replicate them you'd understand the amount of thoughts and planning put into their cd management, tank swap timings, heal coordination. Those tanks probably need much less heals than your average tanks in full tank stance. Imagine if those good tanks need the mitigation from tank stance, even after doing so much effort to optimize their mitigation, then more than half of the current raiders won't be able to clear the contents.

Tl;dr, your average full grit/shield/defiance tanks aren't tankier than the best tanks in the game who don't use tank stance at all, making those good tanks need tank stance means making your average tanks unable to clear the contents, which is absolutely against what the devs want (making the game more casual friendly by simplifying job rotations and making raids easier).