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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    No, sorry, that's totally new. Because what you needed to do the Triple Fell Cleave in HW now allows you to do the Hexa Fell Cleave.
    The Hexa Fell Cleave is, but your post implied multiple Fell Cleaves wasn't possible when it was. You simply burned Raw and Vengeance for stacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Achelon View Post
    In fact, what I really see people complaining about, is that WAR is not the best tank, god-tier anymore, and that is behind Paladin, who has been the worst tank for a whole expansion.
    So it all comes to "I'm not the most broken tank and in fact I'm behind in something to other tanks, so I'm shit".

    We have better damage than DRK, and we still have to see if PLD do have better damage than we do or not (at level 70 we can have Infuriate aproximately every 30s with the trait).
    We have better mobility than Paladin but worse than DRK.
    We have better AoE than PLD (my opinion on this tho) but worse than DRK (not in damage but in options).
    We have worse mitigation than DRK and PLD.
    We have better sustain than DRK or PLD (Storm's Path, Equilibrium and Inner Beast).
    Plenty of people wanted the other tanks brought closer to Warrior's level. What SE did is nerf the other two while buffing Paladin into the moon. They essentially traded one god tier tank for another... which only promotes Paladin to the "mandatory" tank slot.

    Warrior butches Dark Knight in terms of pure mitigation. Vengeance is a better CD than Shadow Wall; Dark Mind lost its unique factor and DRK now has nothing to compare against Inner Beast or Equilibrium . They also have the weakest self sustainability by a mile against bosses. Mitigation wise, DRK is hurting. So really... what does DRK offer? That's a bigger concern for me than Warrior being OP because like it or not, people care about "what jobs are better." These changes only hurt tank variety, which sucks for people who prefer one over the other.
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    Jhaerik Malkier
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    Ya know not all of us base our job choices off of spreadsheets. I liked liked how the Warrior sounded on paper.. and went with it. It was purely the concept I liked. Tank classes with damage that scaled off VIT + 2 hander + what is effectly lifesteal + the ability to do so on AoE pulls.

    I'm not one to make alts, I have no interest in playing other jobs. What does that leave me with? A watered down tank with nothing interesting about it other than some damage ability in the middle of a rotation. Why do people care so damn much about Fellcleave damage... is warrior so shit that the only reason people now play it is "lolz big FC numbers yo"

    What about the fact that I literally lost half a hotbar of abilities? Everyone I ask about FF14 says "play it for the story/lore" where the hell is the lore in waking up one day and not remembering how to use 5 abilities I used yesterday?
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    Last edited by Jhaerik; 06-20-2017 at 09:17 PM.