Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Ryahask]

Cure I is 50% chance of getting a Lily and Cure II is 100% so it's unlikely you won't have a Lily when you need to use the shield, and why would you ever need a shield more than once every 30 seconds? Tank Busters don't happen that often. Did you really waste your MP using Stoneskin that often?

The bottom line is that in terms of practicality where you the new shield will be useful, Stoneskin already was. Did it have a higher cost? Yeah, but it wasn't too significant. To be clear, I do think Benison will be better. There's no doubt there, but a massive improvement? Eh, not really.

They lost 2 DoTs; one from their main kit and one from cross-role while also losing a ton of AoE damage

DoTs are being consolidated across the board, this isn't a SCH specific issue. So, they've lost AoE damage.

Since when? They've always lacked in AoE healing and been the best single target healer due to stacking Physick and Fairy heals with Lustrate and Fey Illumination lol. Embrace lost 50 potency btw.

They still retain Fey Illumination, it's now a cross class skill. I should have specified; outside of Aetherflow SCH has always lacked considerable single target heals, now they have yet another avenue.

MP Management?
Do you not know about WHM's long standing battle with MP Management?

I think you misunderstand being the only Job that actually has MP management (Discounting DRK) with difficulty. Apart from needing to excessively resurrect WHM is fine with the current MP tools it has. Sure, Thin Air will be hilarious for Holy Spam or for firing off 4 Resurrects, but most often you'll use it for 5 free Stone IV's - it's a gimmick. A nice gimmick, but it's minor and it won't impact the weaker aspects of WHM. WHM could already go net neutral in MP without outside influence unless constantly needing to ress.

Overall WHM is getting some new tools which will useful, but not nearly so many as others and they're losing far more than most in the exchange. That's why people are emphasizing it. I don't understand how you could suggest SCH is in a worse position given all they're receiving in exchange for, mostly, aoe damage.

If the MP costs are reflective of what we've been used to in HW, SCH will easily have the hardest time in that department too. WHM may not have received much, but it didn't get nerfed anywhere near as hard as SCH. And with N.AST retaining a 15% heal increase, it's more than valid for SCHs to be feeling a little shafted from what we're seeing. I'm still reserving judgement for now, but now that we have numbers it's looking a little bleak for for both except AST who continues to get buffed even now. :'D

I'd love you to explain this because I must be missing something. Aetherflow return is being lowered, but they have the potential for higher use of Aetherflow and they're receiving a new MP management tool. I do agree though, it's odd that out of the 3 the only Healer getting clearly bumped up is AST.