[dev1033] Ideas for a Two-Tier Class System: Jobs on Top of Weapon Specializations

[OmegaNovaios]

Wow I really like this idea. Maybe even more than:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sic-FF-Classes

So I could do something like Red Mage/Gladiator to be like a RDM in FFXI and the same for BLU. I really like this idea and it seems really easy to implement.

[Duelle]

So I could do something like Red Mage/Gladiator to be like a RDM in FFXI and the same for BLU. I really like this idea and it seems really easy to implement.

What worries me about this is whether there will be some actual build up to the multiple roles a hybrid can take up. Red Mage in particular was screwed last time (FFXI) because the job was basically used only for support.

The proposed idea works well with one-role classes in a way, but seems tricky when applying it to hybrids.

[Akumu]

What worries me about this is whether there will be some actual build up to the multiple roles a hybrid can take up. Red Mage in particular was screwed last time (FFXI) because the job was basically used only for support.

The proposed idea works well with one-role classes in a way, but seems tricky when applying it to hybrids.

For the hybrids I imagine the class you "sub" would make you more efficient enough to have a role. Since Hybrids are usually just the "Jack of all trades" type job. I would imagine a RDM/GLA would be better with physical attacks compared to a RDM/CON. There is also the class Fencer but no info on that yet.

Carpe probably could explain it better. This is just a small summary of how I see it.

[Anathiel]

What worries me about this is whether there will be some actual build up to the multiple roles a hybrid can take up. Red Mage in particular was screwed last time (FFXI) because the job was basically used only for support.

The proposed idea works well with one-role classes in a way, but seems tricky when applying it to hybrids.

If I understood carpe's op correctly really all the title system gives you are bonuses and abilities that augment your current equipped weapon specialization. So if you were a rdm/glad, you'd be a sword user with across the board spells chosen from other classes you leveled that would be amplified with red mage abilities whether they be passive or aactive.

[Cairdeas]

If I understood carpe's op correctly really all the title system gives you are bonuses and abilities that augment your current equipped weapon specialization. So if you were a rdm/glad, you'd be a sword user with across the board spells chosen from other classes you leveled that would be amplified with red mage abilities whether they be passive or aactive.

Correct. A RedMage/Gladiator would be somewhat proficient in Elemental Casting, Healing, and Buffing/Debuffing, but would be prime for Elemental Weapon Skills. Dealing more damage with them then a normal Gladiator would for instance.

While a Redmage/Conjurer would be more proficient at dealing direct damage elemental attacks and heals, and Redmage/Thaumaturge would be better at using Damage over Time elementals and heals.

[Malakhim]

See Cairdeas' last post and that might be the one you're talking about.

[Anathiel]

See Cairdeas' last post and that might be the one you're talking about.

No that's not it, it was really in depth.

[Malakhim]

No that's not it, it was really in depth.

Oh... Then I have no idea. >.>

At any rate, I hope that whatever Matsui and his team are working on resembles this. The other option is fine too, but I feel that this is probably the option that does the least damage to the armory system as it is.

Although it'd be interesting if you'd have to unlock titles once and be able to use them in every "compatible" class afterwards. I.E. Get to rank x, go on a quest and unlock a title like Knight, Magus, or Black Belt that could be used in various classes like GLD/LNC, CON/THM or Pugilist respectively.