Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Nix]

Wow, the vitriol in here is totally unnecessary. If you don't like a thread, just move on ._.;

I get that you might be annoyed with multiple threads popping up on the same subject but it's no reason to be so hostile D:
Go look at cat pictures, or hell, the new stormblood vids! :O

@OP - I feel you; whm is my main class so I feel a little irked by the changes, but I will try to make do (I always do! haha). I was never really a fan of RNG, especially when such a major part of your role hinges on it. That being said, Thin Air is going to be great yet I hope I'm not stuck in situations where I have to really rely on it... because that'd be baaaad haha.

[Adventica6]

I actually laughed.

Utility? you're out of here.

It also pressed a few peoples buttons, that's what I like to see.

[Eothas]

Assize is now 60 seconds (And reducible with crits and the lilly mechanic)

RNG based and unreliably, because Asylum and Tetra will consume your lilies. Even then a CD reduction is not amazing for Assize, it's not a skill to use on CD if the content requires healing. If I have planned to use Assize during X phase/mechanic, getting Assize 10 seconds earlier makes no difference, it's worthless. Of course it will be half decent for DPS in 100% farm/easy content.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Even that is debatable. AST's benefic I/II are now more potent than cure I/II. And now AST has their new mega heal bomb 900 potency. The can draw and hold lady for another extra heal. If whm still holds the highest HPS throughput it's not by much anymore.

Yea I just don't get the thought process that went into WHM for Stormblood or how SE expects WHM to be as competitive and desirable for group composition. WHM, as it currently stands in 4.0, is basically the Paladin or Monk of SB.

[Alkimi]

Here's how I'd fix it:

- Allow Stone IV to add Lillies.
- Asylum Assize Tetra etc. no longer remove lillies.
- Remove the reduced recast time thing. It's just RNG nonsense.
- Remove the whole confession mess. It's hilariously awful.
- Divine Benison scales with how many lillies you have. (15/20/25%)
- Replace Plenary Indulgence with an AoE version of SCH's Excogitation. (300 potency + 100 per lily)

It would still probably be weaker than the other healers in terms of raiding but at least it might actually be the best pure healer.

[Felis]

More noise = more likely to be heard. Why so bitter?

risk to get ignored if overdone

+1 for the picture
-1 because it needed an own thread

[AlphaSonic]

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That's the thing, what i've said is how it works the skill. People is complaining about WHM because of that. THE SKILL IS GARBAGE. That's why people complains.

[Lunaxia]

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I admire your attitude! I don't know if I'll be going near WHM in its current 4.0 state tbh. I do like Thin Air, it'll be boss for some DPS burst, but there's something so wrong about WHM healing being dependent on procs. It's almost like we're being forced into a rotation (Cure II > Cure II > Cure II) to be able make full use of our kit, which is effectively the opposite of optimal healing.

[IttyBitty]

Sebazy covered it pretty comprehensively. A 400-600 potency AoE oGCD ability with a recast of 15 seconds doesn't sound ridiculous to you, given Indom and Assize's cooldowns?

You don't cast it on anybody, it's a PBAoE like Assize. That's why it has a range of 0y with a 30y radius. It's centered around you. Those with stacks get healed. Those without get none.

Comparison: v

[Ghastly]

When White mages say they want raid utility, what is it specifically that you want? Can you give examples? If it's just to copy what sch/ast already does that's not going to work. They can't make all the healers exactly the same.
Can someone give some spell/skills ideas to see if you can come up with something better? Maybe you can but please provide ideas