Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Assuming that's the case, it's pretty logical and natural. A job that has extra utilities needs to be weaker than the others in another area to compensate for that utility depending on what it is. As an example, the hero in OW with the highest HPS is Mercy, at about 80 HP/s I believe. Behind her trails both Zenyatta and Lucio, who over other utilities (DPS and AoE/movement boost respectively) who have less and more limited hps, but have other utilities to compensate.

Overwatch is not even close to the same as FFXIV, so the same balance isn't even remotely applicable... i.e. you can't have a 'support healer' that can only heal 50 HP/s against a boss that does 60 D/s, as there is simply no way to kill that boss before the tank dies. Similarly, it is pointless having a healer that can heal 80 HP/s (with no extra utility) against a boss that only does 60 D/s, as all you're doing is wasting 20 HP/s worth of potential.

So no, using that example, in a game like FFXIV you are better off having all healers being able to heal (or mitigate) 60-65 HP/s, and all bringing some unique form of utility.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

If anything, that would be heading in the right direction. The reason why a pure healer won't work in this game is because both others can heal just as well, if not better. If WHM has a huge advantage in healing, that would even the score.

No, all that would do is make WHM required, and any sort of AST / SCH combo non-viable, which is honestly a horrible 'solution' compared to simply giving WHM a bit of party utility and damage mitigation.

Originally Posted by Acidblood

'support healer' that can only heal 50 HP/s against a boss that does 60 D/s

I'm guessing in that scenario you willingly going against a boss that deals 60HP/s of damage with one tank, one healer, and six dps is a result of your own hubris. Either that or you're assuming your second healer will be doing no healing at all, both of which are situations that are theoretically possible, though I'd imagine pretty unlikely.

Or, alternatively, you take the cross role skill that increases your healing efficacy and use it to buff your HP/s to the needed threshold, which is going to be apparently possible come SB. You know, just saying. I'd imagine there's a reason healers have a generic heal buff action now. Pointing out the obvious, as it were.

OR, assuming said actions are still available in SB, coordinating with your tank and their self heals as well! There are options. Similarly to how there's medkits in OW to help support the healers if necessary, the party can coordinate and help the healer reach the required HP/s requirement.

Originally Posted by LadyKairi

My FC mate told me a rumor that someone who got the opportunity to play SB extra early had said scholar and Astro healing are getting nerfed a lot.. That all they're really gonna gonna be good for is being supports instead of healers. Has anyone heard anything? Because that has me really concerned.

I understand it's just a rumor and that "the stats and numbers are subject to change", but I'm praying others have heard something. Anything.

I heard a rumor that might suggests the opposite for AST. That the healing potency of diurnal will be getting the same % boost in healing potency that nocturnal currently enjoys.

Though having said that, I think there might be a couple "adjustments" to aspected benefics if the rumors are true...