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    Hustensaft's Avatar
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    Gyokuro Sencha
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Just that it looks like all classes are loosing Stoneskin, and Aero will be merged into Aero II, meaning that WHM looses out big times here as well.
    I doubt that Aero and Aero II will be merged.

    Aero and Aero II (or all DoTs for that regard) are similar to the new Thunder I and Thunder II, and not in the same group as Stone I - IV. Stone II did turn Stone I useless. Aero II never turned Aero useless.

    Merging Aero and Aero II would require adding their Potency - but that has massive implications on the damage / gcd value for each DoT.
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    Ariane Claudel
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    Conjurer Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Hustensaft View Post
    I doubt that Aero and Aero II will be merged.

    Aero and Aero II (or all DoTs for that regard) are similar to the new Thunder I and Thunder II, and not in the same group as Stone I - IV. Stone II did turn Stone I useless. Aero II never turned Aero useless.

    Merging Aero and Aero II would require adding their Potency - but that has massive implications on the damage / gcd value for each DoT.
    The WHM in the job action video uses an instant cast Aero II. Yoshi-P doesn't have Aero on his hotbar either: http://i.imgur.com/nkS2IPo.png

    Its not Aero II that made Aero useless, it was Stone III that makes it nearly useless. It would be even more useless with Stone IV and its not even a cross class skill anymore.
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    Otshi Shaliel
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I mean, you don't know what will replace Divine Seal yet, we know absolutely nothing about the new potency of these new healing spells, and we know nothing about the strength of the new "flower barrier"

    Why are you ALREADY complaining? And I'm almost 100% sure that the spells will be automatically replaced with new ones, because PLD get a new lvl 46 spell replacing Bulwark. Wait and see what you get, maybe the 60-70 spells are going the "pure healer" route but the old ones may give a form of support. Even in the new ones there're animations that look like buffs

    Oh, and SCH and AST might be nerfed too, the trailer showing the fairy link seems like a fairy nerf since she won't be a 100% uptime healbot, and I don't see any Balance card in the AST trailer either. Oh and do not forget "Lucid Dream", if LA and Aetherflow see their mana regen disappear for this 21s mana regen, it's literally a buff for WHM mana regen and a nerf to AST & SCH mana regen....

    Do not forget that we will be getting 100% accuracy and the removal of stance dacing help WHM a lot since it will really shine dps-wise.
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    Last edited by HopeEstheim; 05-23-2017 at 11:02 PM.

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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by HopeEstheim View Post
    I mean, you don't know what will replace Divine Seal yet, we know absolutely nothing about the new potency of these new healing spells, and we know nothing about the strength of the new "flower barrier"
    Because a barrier was the least of a whm's problems(and thanks to divine seal sch/ast barriers just got even bigger). On top of that the potencies of whm heals don't much matter. They could make the recast of bene the gcd and people would still prefer sch and ast because they have party buffs. The reason whm isn't picked for a slot has nothing to do with it's damage, it's mp management, or it's ability to put up barriers, it entirely relates to it's lack of ability to buff party damage.
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    Otshi Shaliel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    Because a barrier was the least of a whm's problems(and thanks to divine seal sch/ast barriers just got even bigger). On top of that the potencies of whm heals don't much matter. They could make the recast of bene the gcd and people would still prefer sch and ast because they have party buffs. The reason whm isn't picked for a slot has nothing to do with it's damage, it's mp management, or it's ability to put up barriers, it entirely relates to it's lack of ability to buff party damage.
    Who said that we get a copy/pasted Divine Seal for the three healers? It could be 20% and they remove the % of healing buff from Synastry/Dissipation, while WHM keep another way to boost it's healing potency. Again it's just speculation and we don't even have the true numbers to compare. Did we had the tooltip of the spell that have the same icon as Divine Seal to begin with?
    And how do SCH buff party damage without Selene? You take a SCH because they have strong barrier, strong DPS, really good MP management, and strong and consistant healing...
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by HopeEstheim View Post
    Who said that we get a copy/pasted Divine Seal for the three healers? It could be 20% and they remove the % of healing buff from Synastry/Dissipation, while WHM keep another way to boost it's healing potency.
    It doesn't really matter. If whm's healing power was enough it would have party spots now. That's the point I was making.
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