Put back Extreme trial on raid finder again...please

[HyoMinPark]

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The idea that this content will be "irrelevant" and "unsynced" in 2 months can have zero effect on how difficult the fight can be for randoms, with no communication, who refuse to communicate, or listen to advice, or whatever. Irrelevancy does not necessarily decrease difficulty. If anything, it can just make the fight more difficult because people are like "lol this content is 3 patches old and I'm ilvl 270 now. Mechanics are for cars we don't need to actually do them." Just look at Thordan Ex. I got my clear WAY after it was "irrelevant" and people still died to simple mechanics. Or refused to do simple things like run to THEIR quadrant or even just grab the towers. How hard is that to understand that the towers still need to be dealt with. Same with SephEx. My SephEx clear--very first one--did not happen because the DPS were like "He's at 5%, we can just ignore the wind." Guess what. Seph knocked all of us off the platform with 2% health left. 2%.

This situation at hand will not go away come 4.0. If they decide to get rid of the Raid Finder and exclusively use Duty Finder, they need to either include the Duty Complete/Incomplete options, or require groups to enter as a full party for a couple patch cycles. Just because people don't clear content on the first day doesn't mean they should be treated differently than if they clear two patch cycles later. People need to stop advocating that a newbie to a fight's time is more important to those who want to FARM the content, or do fast and easy clears with randoms or with a full group. I will help people learn; I can usually be extremely patient with helping new people. But I won't sacrifice my farm time just to help one player who thinks they should have the right to make farm parties give them their initial clear because we've had "months to farm the content."

If the concept of just running everything unsynced made fights easier, why do people STILL have difficulty in T9, and make threads asking for either nerfs or to remove this one instance from Wonderous Tails.

All of these Gartrs calling for EX raids to be put back in Raid Finder can just look in the mirror if they need to blame someone. You made the raid population as small as it is because you were too good to lower yourself to showing new players how things are done. Now you're complaining because new players don't know what to do in these raids?

I don't care if the primals are in RF or DF. But I do care about having the option of, if I want to PUG a piece of content, let me choose to enter the fight with 7 other people who have already cleared it. I may not have the time to sit there and wipe for 60 minutes because I was group with 3 new people who couldn't grasp mechanics. If I want to farm content for mounts or weapons or whatever, I should have the right to group with LIKE MINDED PEOPLE (randoms or premade) to do so. Just because I have cleared the content doesn't mean that now I have to hold everyone's hand every time I get a new person in a duty, and sacrifice my time and what I want to do for them. If I want to teach, I put on my little Burger King crown and join learning groups. If I don't feel like teaching that day, I turn it off. I may be a mentor but I'm not obligated to help every single new player clear every piece of content every time I'm grouped with them. Do I still give pointer? Yes. But I will not carry anyone through a fight, new or not. You want a carry? Then put up a PF saying you'll pay for it.

I give newbies that sneak into farms a chance when I probably shouldn't. Because I usually end up just wiping for an hour, making very little progress. And I'm not any closer to getting my mount or my weapons or whatever I wanted to farm from it. But I still give them the chance (and the benefit of the doubt) because I was new once, too. And I appreciated when people did that for me.

No one here is saying that us with clears are magically superior to those who don't have them. Do people like that exist? Unfortunately yes. But that doesn't mean we're all like that.

For the record, I have cleared exactly one Savage raid: A9S (I don't count A1S really because it's just so faceroll easy now, and if I were to PUG it synced down to minimum or maximum ilvl, I would probably not be able to clear it in a single pull because I am unfamiliar with the mechanics that are skipped). I am not a raider. I would like to find a static so that I can raid in Stormblood, but I in no way consider myself "better" than people who don't raid. Don't lump everyone into one group of people.