Put back Extreme trial on raid finder again...please

[bswpayton]

What the OP actually wants its the means to queue for this content while selecting a "everyone I'm queueing with has cleared this"-option. This content being out for months doesnt magically make it so easy that it can be pugged with newbies if you want to farm it.

But have you farmers not have yals time, I mean seriously you have had months on up to a year to farm to your hearts desire to do content with no bonuses. The option to leave new players or first timers out for months on in , because we both know that in two months no sync runs will happen on this content. So is it really to much to ask , for those whom are still tryin to clear content to have better access to it after all this time. This seems very one sided here things have gone the way of the rf for the whole time frame of its existence, now here it is right before the expansion when they are nerfing alex, uncapping the 24mans.

They are doing everything to make things easier for everyone, but yet people what the exclusiveness of the raid finder to continue. Because the thing about it is that those whom want their birds will get them regardless in two months, but how much harder will it be for someone to get a sync clear of a run once it goes unsync will it be. Lets be real here bird farms will continue on much more frequently than any sync runs of unsyncable content. So while I know that people can slow down progress I know from my own personal experience every primal I ever cleared was in df before I started using pf, so I dont think well I know not all of them are just wipe fest, so at this point the time is just simply up for what the op wants.

[Vidu]

But have you farmers not have yals time, I mean seriously you have had months on up to a year to farm to your hearts desire to do content with no bonuses.

Intresting - you're saying right now "Oh, to bad you wanted to farm this content, you're to late for that now!"
For the sake of people who might have been to late to get there first clears when everyone was doing/learning the content...?

I might have had real life reasons not to farm the content when it first came out (personally, with Zurvan I actually had), just as much as a person could have had personal reasons not to join learning parties when the content first came out. So right now, the system is telling the farmer "yep, you're to late to the party now", while the new person gets a VIP-ticket...

Also the more I read in this thread, the more I wonder - does anyone actually farm in the RF? Isn't the point of farming to do the content over and over, which is much more suited to the party finder? Are we even arguing about things that actually happen (on either side of the debate)?

I believe I have answered this already, but since we're all writing novels here, I'll repeat it: Yes, it actually happend. Sophia was the godess (pun intended) of this feature when they released that fight - specially because the fight required the standard set-up with two tanks (main reason it didnt worked aswell for Zurvan was that you only need one tank there, so there was the huge benefit of getting a 5th dps in when doing it with a full party). Me and some friends used that feature to get some fast clears in - and seeing how we had queuetimes below 5 minutes, I reckon a lot of other people did the same. While the point of farming is to do the content over and over again it only requires you to do that with people who know what they're doing - not necessarly with the same group. So, when farming only requires you to have 7 other people there who know what they're doing - why not have those 7 people randomly come from DF? (Yes, yes, we can argue that having the kill doesnt mean you know the fight - but it certainly increases the chance to get paired up with people who know the fight when everyone has the clear - during the farmruns my friend and I did in Sophia, using the RF, we saw like 4 wipes and one disband or so? Not remotly close to what I dealt with in Garuda EX when I tried to farm that in DF back in the old days...)
Queueing up for content like that is a lot more flexible than setting up a PF or joining a group.
Ask yourself why you dont make a PF-group everytime you want to do expert.