As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Lambdafish]

Please prove that what I have said was designed to have a negative impact on the community just because I have a different opinion?

Ok, you want to see the hostility?

My argument being faulty is debateable coming from a subjective viewpoint

(which can be reworded to My argument isn't faulty because I don't think it is)

To even suggest theres an issue with healer dps is often put put down and sometimes aggressively or bitchily just proves how hostile the community is towards those that cant or dont do it.

Tbh even if you explain yourself its still taken as refusal or too lazy to learn or the best one is 'why should a group carry you' or 'put up with you' ' your slowing us down' ' your hurting the group' go learn elsewhere dps or gtfo. You make it sound like peoples's attitudes are so reasonable towards those that try.

(Scroll down to see the attitudes towards those who try and have a good attitude)

So you automatically assume that I suck? (Note: in itself a baseless assumption, this wasn't ever stated) an How is that helping? When I already know how to dps and know the 'benefits' but I think to me the expection itself is a problem and please stop being personal you dont know me, or how I play

(this was in response to attitude shown on the forums)

Im sorry you will be immediately 'jumped on ' for it. Sadly all you will get is ' advice' on how you should 'improve yourself'

I think she may not respond because she doesnt have a justifiable answer.

When have I ever seen a post that favours my views from you?

I guess allowances are not made often for people that learn in different ways

(Scroll down to see said allowances)

If I say here that its assholes I will get accused of blaming it on everything else.

Omg the insults just keep pouring out dont they victim, crazy, paranoid, liar, now strange stalker what next lol? I think its you that has issues dont project your messed up stuff onto me

(Overblown, exaggeration of attacks that were not malicious)

And the posts that we have been making?

In response to someone with a positive attitude:

Wow I think you are doing absolutely amazing. Your attitude is so great too I wouldn't even mind if you were only managed to do 10 DPS in a whole run.

Not every "non-DPS" healer is like that, and we can unanimously agree that healers who idle are terrible. It is this kind of hostility and accusation that forms these threads, and I'd rather avoid attacking people and scaring off healers who are potentially not skilled enough, but are open to improvement.

Well everyone here acknowledges that other players have aptitude and some don't

At the risk of stretching this out; have a look over my logs, I'll be the first to admit that I'm a crummy DPS when it comes to progression content but yet I do absolutely fine.

In response to a healer who wasn't confident (those who you are championing to defend):

I think you might be a bit overly careful here. I've done some Savage and Extreme learning parties lately and with DF or PF pugs they tend to be messy enough that healers are busy just healing at start, and that's fine

No, the "lazy healer" comments have been directed to the healers who refuse to be helpful to their party when they could all along. The "lol no I won't DPS because I'm a healer, I'll just /moogledance while I watch you work for our group goals instead" crowd. And this has been explained again and again in this thread.

No one is going to (or at least they definitely shouldn't) give you a hard time on this, especially since you're talking about doing dungeons and not trying to join a Savage static.

To sum up the argument:

no one has ever advocated nor blamed your lack of DPS relative to this supposed statics deficiency. That is your assumption.

Tbh I think 90% of players wont even realise that if it's outside of EX Primal or Savage Alex, so you shouldn't worry too much about it.
That isn't even the problem at all, at least not for most people. It is absolutely fine to play it safe and careful if you are not familiar with the situation.

Like Lambdafish said before: It's the attitude that counts!

To conclude: you have a lot of predetermined assumptions about the community and that comes across negatively here, the fact that your arguement doesn't correlate with the evidence shows this assumption. And the hostility comes when people point out that this assumption makes your point objectively incorrect.

Theres a tonne more but I have already wasted too much time on this post that will only be met with "Stop insulting me".

Anyway, enough lowering myself to the negativity for me, anyone want to positively talk about healing?