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  1. #1181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    snip
    Except no one has ever advocated nor blamed your lack of DPS relative to this supposed statics deficiency. That is your assumption. Every single post inevitably devolves into an imagined attack by the community on you and our unwillingness to accept heal only healers. I'll say what I said pages ago, if the group had poor DPS yet expected their healers to make up the difference, you are not at fault for their poor performance. Healers always have to adjust based upon the groups they are dealt or choice to play with. Where people here have taken umbrage is your insistence minimal DPS is okay and should be expected. That is a subjective stance a large portion of the raid community does not agree with. You can argue or cry foul all you fancy but it will not change their perspective. At the Savage level, expectations are significantly higher. If I can't manage 1500 DPS on A12S as a Dragoon, I'll be asked to practice or be kicked. When I initially stepped into raiding I was told to practice since my mechanical awareness needed work. None of us start off excellent.

    Disabling DPS without radically adjusting healing potency or outgoing damage would result in an enormous backlash and I dare say the healer population would plummet.
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  2. #1182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbad View Post
    Wat? I really don't understand. You keep saying "all those things they said about me" but what was it that was said about you that is so offensive and bannable? I'm truly wtf moment here.
    You didnt see? I'm not going to repeat it, or quote it, but if you accept that if you call someone names like 'crazy' or 'mad stalker' with personal, or detrimental intentions to 'attack' someone then it is bannable. And really all I have done on here is put over my point of view, respond to people's posts and correct people if they have made a statement about me that is incorrect, and there have been quite a few incorrect assumptions on here as well, even to the point of me being called a 'liar' just because what I said was misinterpreted. Perhaps its been removed now though.
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    Last edited by Feyona; 04-01-2017 at 11:53 PM.

  3. #1183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Perhaps its been removed now though.
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    Nope.

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  4. #1184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post

    Disabling DPS without radically adjusting healing potency or outgoing damage would result in an enormous backlash and I dare say the healer population would plummet.
    where have I said that every post is an attack on me? if someone says Im lazy if I dont dps or says stuff like ' I will kick non dpsing healer' or says things like ' I dont attempt to dps' then I have corrected them. Or especially calls me a liar then its far from 'imagined' I think that the healing community wouldnt plummet at all just like othe games where you only heal, people like that role. Im not the only healer that feels this way and you dps would probably dps but everyone that likes healing would stay healing. How come everything would have to be adjusted when it was not scaled into it in the first place? And have to add here that I was trying to make a point that optimal performnce works both ways and trying to illustrate that using my static as an example not saying the communty here blamed my lack of dps but the group did. And the idea that sch has to dps was put there by the community in the first place or I wouldnt have been kicked or potentially excluded. I will also add here that many dps have healing classes as well, and if a group or an fc wanted or needed a healer for a particular clear, even if the person didnt like just healing would swap over to help the group. No one really has to do one role or the other, but I just see a problem with healers expected to do both at once for the reasons above
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  5. #1185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzer View Post
    Nope.

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    Just puzzled how stormblad didnt see it then. Or maybe hasnt read the rules
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  6. #1186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except no one has ever advocated nor blamed your lack of DPS relative to this supposed statics deficiency. That is your assumption. Every single post inevitably devolves into an imagined attack by the community on you and our unwillingness to accept heal only healers. I'll say what I said pages ago, if the group had poor DPS yet expected their healers to make up the difference, you are not at fault for their poor performance. Healers always have to adjust based upon the groups they are dealt or choice to play with. Where people here have taken umbrage is your insistence minimal DPS is okay and should be expected. That is a subjective stance a large portion of the raid community does not agree with. You can argue or cry foul all you fancy but it will not change their perspective. At the Savage level, expectations are significantly higher. If I can't manage 1500 DPS on A12S as a Dragoon, I'll be asked to practice or be kicked. When I initially stepped into raiding I was told to practice since my mechanical awareness needed work. None of us start off excellent.

    Disabling DPS without radically adjusting healing potency or outgoing damage would result in an enormous backlash and I dare say the healer population would plummet.
    Quoted for truth, justice and the onion way. <3
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  7. #1187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    if you accept that if you call someone names like 'crazy' or 'mad stalker' with personal, or detrimental intentions to 'attack' someone then it is bannable.
    I was going to keep quiet but I'm going to speak up because you are talking about being petty enough to even mention reporting someone who has not attacked you at all (you even admitted to not having quotes of directly malicious behavior) and has simply observed your behavior. You have voliated several rules, one of which being the double posting, triple posting and even quadruple posting that you have been doing which has inflated this thread at least 20 pages on its own, and that could be seen as violating the following:

    Posting spam, including meaningless characters and white space.
    And thats only the most minor rules break, you have also heavily contributed to the following:

    Posting aimed to create a negative impact on the community or its members.
    This is where you think you are in the right and do not contribute to discussion, instead furthering your own goals by acting attacked. This inflates the thread, and creates victims out of several members of the community who are only trying to help the discussion remain positive (again, threatening and accusing based on nothing is an attack). You have brought the tone of this thread down, and that IS against the forum rules. But again, nobody is going to report you for it because we are better than that.

    Please don't be petty, the people around you have been extreamly reasonable, and that has been shown countless times.
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 04-02-2017 at 01:08 AM.

  8. #1188
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    Quote Originally Posted by era1Ne View Post
    You said it yourself in the first sentence. You are a main scholar and others just aren't, so thats their "excuse".
    I was speaking within the contexts of savage, and if I'm able to see and exploit the gaps in savage that means they exist. Also, I don't care what anyone does in a casual dungeon, you could be spamming ruin 1 on smn and personally, I'd just go about my business; if it's soft content then just do you, but when you do savage it's assumed that you enter the content competent on your class and to the expectations of your group. Also, yeah you can have only dots rolling and hit the 80th. My co-healer has recently been solo healing A12S on our sales runs, and just through dot reapplication and the odd malefic he's able to hit 75-85th. Swiss cheese man
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  9. #1189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post

    Please don't be petty, the people around you have been extreamly reasonable, and that has been shown countless times.
    I think you will find most of my posts were responses to others just like this one. Please prove that what I have said was designed to have a negative impact on the community just because I have a different opinion? That is not against the rules whereas calling people names like 'mad stalker' is. White space imaydue to error on my part and Im not spamming im responding to posts. Just because my opinion is different to yours it isnt an offence to have one or this would not be a dicussion but a dictatorsip, where everyone has to think the same way im sorry if my opinions have a negati ve effect on you but that may be because you cant accept it and that isnt my problem its yours.I have to add here as well though what was the intention of this post? If not to yet again 'have a go' at me.Tthis was designed to have a negative impact on me and it is not contributing to the discussion either. Also where is this white space and meaningless characters I cant see it. I think majority of my posts were pertainent to the discussion whearas calling someone a liar or crazy isnt please look up the word 'hypocracy' just for educational purposes , as Im trying to give you advice here so maybe you could view it as 'helpful' or not as you choose. Just as you think you have been helpful to me. If your part of a group dicussion you will have to accept different opinions or not take part bar being called names of course. but I dont think I have personally insulted any one here by calling them names in a very personal or derrogatory way in fact its the opposite. but you dont see that lowered the tone
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    Last edited by Feyona; 04-02-2017 at 02:53 AM.

  10. #1190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    'mad stalker'
    Nope. Never said this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    just because I have a different opinion? [...] Just because my opinion is different to yours it isnt an offence to have one
    This is not the problem here. But... As we are going back in time, again :
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    Last edited by Wanzer; 04-02-2017 at 02:09 AM. Reason: grammar...

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