Should the Heavensward Leveling dungeons and trials have item level requirements?

[Nixxe]

SE changed the Queue system to give a penalty if someone misses a queue. I really doubt there was more queue trolling then this issue now. It should be changed, no one should be allowed in 60+ content from gear they found in sashsha while having crafting gear on for other slots.

It does not matter how frequent it happens, it should NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE FIRST PLACE!

I doubt that was implemented in response to "queue trolling." More likely it was just meant to keep people from AFKing and forgetting about their queues or from queuing for things they aren't sure they want to do, which is a fairly common problem even with the penalty in place.

Again though, you have the tools to deal with the problem already, so do so.

[Ama_Hamada]

I doubt that was implemented in response to "queue trolling." More likely it was just meant to keep people from AFKing and forgetting about their queues or from queuing for things they aren't sure they want to do, which is a fairly common problem even with the penalty in place.

Again though, you have the tools to deal with the problem already, so do so.

You missed the point of what i was saying, therefor I do not know how to respond to this post.

[Nixxe]

You missed the point of what i was saying, therefor I do not know how to respond to this post.

I don't think you have much of a point to begin with. Let's look at the edit in your last post. You say that perhaps I'm just not noticing all these undergeared people who are supposedly weighing down the group. OK, I suppose that's fair, but if that's the case, then it would just torpedo your own argument as 1) it's obviously not stopping me from completing the dungeon and 2) isn't stressing me–the healer–out, which according to you is the problem. As I said in your previous thread, I'm probably mediocre at best, so if it's not a problem for mediocre me, why is it a problem for good players, who look down their nose at the riffraff who dare burden them in duty finder? You then go on to rabble rabble lazy rabble rabble effort rabble rabble, which is to say the generic tripe spewed by people who think they're mod's gift to the game, people who in my experience all too often lack even the slightest semblance of awareness as to their own impact on people around them. Why do we even assume these players are lazy? It's a video game. People play it for enjoyment. They may not have the same priorities or skill or whatever and that's OK. No need to denigrate them or assume ill of them just because your random group isn't the super group that you obviously deserve. Random groups are, well, random and as such it would be silly to expect everything to be exactly how you want it to be. If that's what you want, then make your own groups, and you can control exactly who gets in and what they're allowed to do. In the mean time, I'm sorry if someone queues with gear you don't like, but if they can't do their job, that's what the kick function is for. You'll live even if you lose 15 seconds of your day waiting for a replacement.

[Ama_Hamada]

I don't think you have much of a point to begin with. Let's look at the edit in your last post. You say that perhaps I'm just not noticing all these undergeared people who are supposedly weighing down the group. OK, I suppose that's fair, but if that's the case, then it would just torpedo your own argument as 1) it's obviously not stopping me from completing the dungeon and

Also since so many people are stuck on "you cleared and didn't wipe" I will provide more information that I had thought wasn't necessary because I didn't see how someone could possibly defend using a level 50 i110 weapon in level 60 content no matter if we "cleared" or not. Whether we cleared or not I have no issue with. My issue is finding this loophole in the DF system where someone can use a weapon extremely inappropriate for the duty.

That is all I am going to say, give me more respect and I will start doing the same. You are enabling people to be lazy for no reason, it is disrespectful to anyone that has to clear a DF with them. There is no holes with what I said.

If that is really your stance then you should be proposing ALL DFS to be able cleared nakkied since putting effort into gearing is too hard and "not fun"

[Nixxe]

That is all I am going to say, give me more respect and I will start doing the same. You are enabling people to be lazy for no reason, it is disrespectful to anyone that has to clear a DF with them. There is no holes with what I said.

If that is really your stance then you should be proposing ALL DFS to be able cleared nakkied since putting effort into gearing is too hard and "not fun"

This is an absurd notion of respect that crosses the line into entitlement. I'm being amicable towards you. To suggest I am being disrespectful to you simply because I disagree with you and simply because I don't think other players exist to do whatever I want is utterly insane. I obviously made a mistake by replying to you again. I will not repeat that mistake.