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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Maybe you should have read the next sentence...
    Maybe you should have read the sentence you wrote which I quoted....

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If the game decided that this BLM was able to enter, then it's not a problem that he's here in that state.
    ^You, in plain readable English, said that if the game let the BLM enter then "it's not a problem".

    Which was the reason for my last response to you.

    Yes you said this after....

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Building on that, the discussion is how the system could be tweaked to ensure that "Required ilvl" is a proper measurement.
    But how does this^ sentence somehow remove or backtrack the opinion you clearly wrote in your first paragraph that "it's not a problem"? Your second paragraph doesn't somehow invalidate the first paragraph you wrote....like you are really confusing me.

    Building on that? No...that isn't what the thread is about. No matter if he queued using it or changed it inside it is still a problem because no matter how he did it level 50 i110 weapon in level 60 content is massively inappropriate and the game shouldn't have let him queue with it or change to it. It's fine about your idea to make the weapon less significant, while I might not agree with that approach I have no issue with your ideas/opinions on that.

    My issue was you claiming "if the game lets you enter it's not a problem". Which is why I posted that example in my last post, which you didn't comment on for some reason, about Queueing as a tank for level 60 dungeons with full crafting gear and healing accessories on.



    This is a tank queueing for a dungeon wearing all crafting gear and healing accessories and level 50 weapon going into level 60 content. The game let me do it. So I guess it isn't a problem?

    Again, as soon as you say that it isn't a problem because the game let them queue then what I just did in that screenshot is 100% no problem at all. That's why you just cannot support that kind of reasoning because in the end you just turn into a hypocrite. Anyone who plays this game knows that screenshot is a serious problem. (btw I have less VIT than a level 40 something tank)

    Now my example doesn't have much to do with the topic because honestly I've never seen someone do what I just tried to do (I really hope no one would be dense enough to do it either; the potential is there it is just unlikely), but using "the game let them enter" as a reason why it is no problem that the BLM was there in that state... that's where it becomes ridiculous. You just can't accept that and that is what my example is showing.

    Yes the game let him queue, or the game let him change to that weapon in the instance, but weapon by itself is too important which is why I advocate a simple change to the DF system where it checks your weapon when you try to queue and inside the instance will bar you from changing to a massively inappropriate weapon also.

    Just because the game lets you queue doesn't mean there are no flaws with the DF system. It obviously isn't perfect looking at the screenshot I just took. If it was perfect it wouldn't let someone queue in a state where they cannot do their job for the content and extremely hard (if not completely impossible) for you to clear the content.

    Note: I hit withdraw, not going into a dungeon like that :/

    You believe if the game let him enter then there is no problem and that there is only a problem if he changes gear inside the instance, but in the end you are just ignoring the fact that the reason for this thread is the fact that he could actually queue with that weapon (I checked on my BLM and equipping an i110 weapon only brought me down to i240), or he could switch to it inside the duty, and BOTH scenarios are a problem.
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    Last edited by Miste; 02-26-2017 at 03:04 PM.