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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    Uhhh... your definition would allow SE to sell any item in the game at cost, while maintaining that FFXIV isn't P2W. After all, it's not like you can't get BiS gear without spending money!
    Umm... yeah. SE can sell any item in the game for real money if they want. As long as there is a way to obtain it by simply playing the game and not having to buy it, then it's not P2W. The sole exception being that if the time required to acquire it without real money is irrationally or ridiculously long, disproportionate to the cost.


    The vastly more accepted definition for P2W is selling services for money that render an advantage in-game over someone who didn't spend money. A level boost definitely qualifies there. It's not a SIGNIFICANT advantage, but it's an advantage nonetheless. I maintain my statement is an accurate assessment of a leveling potion.
    No, it is not. That is the objectively false, irrational definition used by people who try to claim that any sort of cash shop at all is P2W. Flipping your own statement around on you, by your incorrect definition, anything sold in the cash shop at all is P2W. Having a style someone else doesn't or a mount or dye someone else doesn't is an advantage.

    P2W requires that whatever you're buying is an advantage that can only be obtained by spending real money. Mean you have to PAY to get the advantage. Again, the exception being if the acquisition time is highly disproportionate to the real money cost.
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 02-24-2017 at 08:22 AM.