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    szalkerous's Avatar
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    Lauralanthlas Kyiardi
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    Bard Lv 70

    PLEASE do NOT allow level skipping in 4.0

    I saw in an EU Fan Fest interview the following:

    JP Outlet: There’s been talk about introducing a quick leveling potion (jumping potion) and i’d like more details about that.

    Yoshida: This is something we’re still debating in the team. We can’t say anything now but we hope to have an announcement soon during a live letter.
    If this refers to an instant "0-50" (or even worse a "0-60") jump, don't do this. Please.

    Level skipping does not force people to learn their classes, and then dilutes the pool of experienced players in endgame and near-endgame content. People need to learn their rotations and how to play in easier content.

    Instead, continue to provide incentive for high-level players to run older content. Wonderous Tails, Roulettes, item and supply drops from older dungeons and raids all are perfectly fine.

    In addition, you could provide gear that gives a generous XP boost under level 50 or so.

    FWIW If I got this news all wrong, please say so.
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Bah, was on my phone, you beat me to it.

    But to elaborate, that link goes to a thread where this topic has been discussed to death.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
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    Legion88's Avatar
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    They plan to introduce a jump potion to skip the story up to Stormblood (including all MSQ till 4.0) and a seperate jump potion to instant gratify a job to level 60 to start directly into Stormblood.
    As much as i know this potions will be introduced later in the 4.X cycle.
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  5. 02-22-2017 04:07 AM

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    OpheliaHeartilly's Avatar
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    Squirt Cobain
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I'm very excited for level skipping. I'm going to use it on my last class/job (MAR/WAR). I will learn the rotation in about 30 min then do a dungeon with it. It won't be my main. I have other jobs I levelled up the "old fashioned way" (MCH, BRD, NIN) that I haven't played in so long it doesn't even matter that it took me weeks to level them. I'd have to relearn their rotations. The amount of time I spent building those jobs up isn't synonymous with how well I play them. This jump potion will do nothing except save some ppl some time. Good players will learn how to play the job quickly. Bad players will play the job poorly regardless of how they level it. I certainly don't assume ppl playing in dungeons levelled their jobs in PoTD if they are playing poorly. Lot's of ppl played poorly before PoTD came along.
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    Ibi Risasi
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    Marauder Lv 70
    There's an existing 179-page thread about this here, which addresses the issue.

    Some of the common counter-arguments to your concerns would be:
    1. If/when these are added, they will increase your level to a maximum of ten levels under the existing cap. Players would have those remaining ten levels in order to learn their job, and the later levels are far more reflective of how the job actually plays than lower levels, when you're still missing the majority of your job's abilities.
    2. Players can currently level entirely through FATEs, which can very easily allow them to get all the way to the cap (rather than 10 levels below it) without ever learning correct rotations, how to play, etc.
    3. Players who care about their performance are going to do the necessary research to learn how to play their jobs at the level cap regardless of how they leveled. Conversely, players who do not are not going to do the necessary research, regardless of how they leveled.
    4. Players can currently jump into Palace of the Dead an immediately play a job at 60. Should this also be prevented, on the basis that they may not know how to play the job correctly? Conversely, can this be taken as evidence that players need not have leveled a job all the way to the cap (regardless of method) to be capable of playing it at an acceptable level?
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  8. #7
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    Lauralanthlas Kyiardi
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    Thanks for the replies, I had looked around a bit but didn't know what we were calling it so I missed the other mega thread--thank you!
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 95
    My take on the job potion is, I don't think anybody truly learns their job until they have their skill set completely unlocked. The faster you unlock your skills, the faster you can start learning your job properly. Not to mention jump potions are a godsend to people with alts. I can't wait for jump potions to be available.
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by szalkerous View Post
    Level skipping does not force people to learn their classes
    Leveling normally doesn't do this either...
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    Last edited by SDaemon; 02-22-2017 at 04:58 AM.

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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    For 22$ you can insta jump a job to lvl60
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