Shogun Tank Request Thoughts

[Kazrah]

A Shogun, is to give it more Sengoku styled armor. To use a weapons such as a Nodachi or other weapon, with animaions, skills and effects that shows martial prowes of a fictional Japanese warrior.

Yes, but in the end, we still see this:



Yes, you can go on about how different a Shogun job concept is from our Dark Knight, but in the end, it's still in the same armor as Dark Knight, still has a big sword like Dark Knight, and would still wind up looking like a Dark Knight with a different coat of paint.

No matter what is said, it will always look the same as a Dark Knight, which is all the more reason why we don't have Shogun as a tank, nor should we have it as a tank. That's a good thing too, because it means the next tank can be something different--that's the key word here. Even at just a standing cursory glance, Shogun needs to seem different than Dark Knight, but unless it's wielding something other than a sword, that just won't happen.

[SaitoHajime]

Just play Dark Knight. We use two-handed swords and a few styles look like katanas.

Yes, I know it's not the same thing, but a Shogun would be far, far too much overlap and redundancy.

hate drk, only use it on a12s

[programcanaan]

I just wanna see a tank with War Hammer. Like Nero to Scaeva.

[Kaedan]

hate drk, only use it on a12s

Then you wouldn't likely enjoy "Shogun" either, because it would be the same job with maybe a slightly different skin.

[SaitoHajime]

Then you wouldn't likely enjoy "Shogun" either, because it would be the same job with maybe a slightly different skin.

and you know I wont how? just cuz they would both have a parry trait? cuz that's the only argument you can use

[Kaedan]

and you know I wont how?

Because they would essentially be the same job. Unless they had the Shogun use a War Fan or something exotic.

See the post by Kazrah above.

[Jhemi]

After sticking to "PLD" for two years now and being to invested into tanking once i found out it was pretty much selftorture to play it, I was waiting for a a different tank. Considering I absolutly despise both "WAR" and "DRK" (maybe because i ran into much that where either really bad, had to rub their superiority into my face or both) i was secretly hoping for a Shogun style tank.

I for one doubt that whatever rework "PLD" will get will make me want to play it even one day longer after "STORMBLOOD" launch. They would have to give us two swords to wield in "Sword Oath", an actual Limit Break worth looking at and actually make us do damage aswell as overall make us usefull in any way to keep me tanking anymore as once i stop doing so i doubt i will ever return to it unless they add a tank that would spike my interest enough (like Shogun would).

To all those saying that a Shogun tank would just be like "DRK" please use your imagination a bit more. There are so may ways to make it unique and different from any other job (even Samurai) that there is hardly a reason to not actually cater to a fraction of the playerbase outside of "Savage" and "Feast" for once.

[Yin111]

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I agree, Shogun need to be diffrent then a Dark knight, but just bcause it uses another type of large sword, if it were to, dosent mean its intantly similer to a Dark Knight. Weapons especially sword are often genralized. But in this game they are devided by specifics characeristics. The Palidin uses the short sword, the Red Mage uses a rapier, the Samurai a katana and the Dark Kignt a great sword. All of these may be swords, but are seperated and played diffrently based on the weapons characteristics.

Yes, Shogun would eventuall wear the same armor as Dark Knight, but so will Warrior and Palidins. Each tanks will evntually look the same with similer damage midigation skills, only diffrent effects, but what differs are the weapons, abilitys, animations, buff and debuff, and damage potentail they bring to game.

[Yin111]

-Continued-

Again, I am not saying that they must bring Shogun to the game as fast as possible, just in the far future when other high profile jobs are brought in. Then they may begen working on original Jobs. It is not as if they have no idea how to create diffrences or how to make a Job uniquly diffrent this is something they could do.

You can disagree with a Shogun job, I respect your opinion, as I understand your argument. But the idea is to bring a concept to the table and make it unique. Even if at first thought on the table "They are too similer" there is always diffrent ways to make soemething unique.

[SaitoHajime]

Because they would essentially be the same job. Unless they had the Shogun use a War Fan or something exotic.

See the post by Kazrah above.

plz. don't assume what I would/wouldn't like because I don't like the job you main. and it would be SE's version of shogun so that doesn't mean it would use a fan.

heres what the fan was actually for:
Gunbai (Gumbai), Gunpai (Gumpai) or dansen uchiwa (軍配?) were large solid open fans that could be solid iron, metal with wooden core, or solid wood, which were carried by high-ranking officers. They were used to ward off arrows, as a sunshade, and to signal to troops.