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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Just throwing this out there - but it will not happen.

    The two soul gem, I never had a problem with it. Yet I remember somewhere in an interview or such that they did not want to do the SMN / SCH route again.

    But would have been interesting that RDM could be a dps rng/healer and SAM a dps melee/tank.

    But since it is far unlikely the case.

    Then perhaps rather I would like to see what many have suggested instead that dungeon groups increase from 4 man to 5. Where its 3 dps and a tank, heal and just adjust the level of difficulty like so.
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    I would also really like to see them put Shogun in as a tank. I was really looking forward to Samurai being a tank and the announcement killed a lot of my excitement for Stormblood.

    I really like the aesthetics of Japanese-style jobs, and since both Ninja and Samurai are now DPS, it doesn't seem like there are any options left for a tank. I have heard that they don't want to add many Japanese-style jobs, so this means tanks will probably never get one, even if we do eventually get a new job.

    Anyway, I get that some people don't care, but I want to signal my interest in this as well. Maybe give them a katana and an iron war fan (tessen). That could be fun.
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    Yun Nara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    Just throwing this out there - but it will not happen.

    The two soul gem, I never had a problem with it. Yet I remember somewhere in an interview or such that they did not want to do the SMN / SCH route again.

    But would have been interesting that RDM could be a dps rng/healer and SAM a dps melee/tank.

    But since it is far unlikely the case.

    Then perhaps rather I would like to see what many have suggested instead that dungeon groups increase from 4 man to 5. Where its 3 dps and a tank, heal and just adjust the level of difficulty like so.
    I agree that two soul gems system is to much for the game and devs. Which is why the request is specificly a new Job not tied to the Samurai job like Scholar and Summoner was.
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    Last edited by Yin111; 02-21-2017 at 04:50 AM.

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    Drk being a tank.... i was okay with. If they made Sam a tank too.... i would have never forviven SE. Samurai needed to be a dps, glad that's what it got to be.
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    Kouri Nara
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    I feel that having a SAM as DPS and a shogun tank is almost repetitive; if you take a look at the jobs, we don't really see repetition - at least, in terms of 'culture.' ex: DRG with aerial and MNK with melee. sure, NIN + MNK are similar in that they're melee but MNK is based off of Chinese and NIN for Japanese. this wouldn't be the case for SAM and shogun

    we have MCH with range + turret but a supportive (MP restoration, etc) range DPS for BRD- similar but not entirely alike. healers: WHM, SCH, and AST respectively: big-heals, nullifying damage (but numerically lower heals), and buffs/dual roles of WHM and SCH

    I can see shogun as a branch for SAM - something like ACN, SCH, and SMN. however, I feel like Squeenix can pull that off once but may not pull it off again. but it'd still be interesting to see a shogun tank

    it's relevant to note that I'm not taking sides; it's just as the situation is,based on existing patterns, it seems unlikely that they would implement a similar job
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    Quote Originally Posted by momo-en View Post
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    I do not believe culture would play a factor, but theme instead. The theme for tanks are to wear heavy armor and, as of now, heavy weapons. Currently Samurai as a Job uses a Katana, which is usable as a one handed weapon, and wearing robes rather then actual armor. The theme for Samurai now, is an Edo period Samurai, a time of relative peace. We can assume that peace will not last, and war will come to the east. It would be during this time that a Shogun Job would be best thematicly implemented, in times of strife and not necessarly only with the Garlenian Conflict.

    As for the branch, it would not be possible unless the devs decided to change how the Job system works. But they could tie in Shogun with lore rather then by Job. Much like how DRG uses plate armor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    Isn't Shogun a ruler of a land or country? I mean, it's kinda weird to have so many Shoguns going into the front line, and taking the hit for their companions.
    Shogun in Japanese also means General, Field Commander, or Field Leader. (The Samurais that wear the war coat, jinbaori, over their armor). We are also talking in the realm of Fantasy where leaders take part in battles.
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    Last edited by Yin111; 02-26-2017 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yin111 View Post
    I do not believe culture would play a factor, but theme instead. The theme for tanks are to wear heavy armor and, as of now, heavy weapons. Currently Samurai as a Job uses a Katana, which is usable as a one handed weapon, and wearing robes rather then actual armor.
    I can see that as a reason for shogun, and it's possible that SAM and shogun having repetitions give enough similarities that SE can 'meld' in a shogun based off of similar cultures with a different theme.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    Isn't Shogun a ruler of a land or country? I mean, it's kinda weird to have so many Shoguns going into the front line, and taking the hit for their companions.
    as he mentioned, shoguns are generals. I suppose it is weird, thinking about it, but then again, we're in a fantasy realm. (realistically, lalas can't defeat rogaedyns in a physical fight, but they can in FF soooo there we go XD)
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Isn't Shogun a ruler of a land or country? I mean, it's kinda weird to have so many Shoguns going into the front line, and taking the hit for their companions.
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