Shogun Tank Request Thoughts

[Yin111]

You'll have to suck it up, they turned DRK into a tank, effectively taking out its signature move to shoehorn it into that role. I wanted SAM as a tank, until they showed everyone DRK tank in its stead. We had to deal with it then, it's your turn now.

I understand that at this point, Samurai being DPS will not change. I am not here to complain, to cry, to argue that it should have been tank. I am here to try and raise awareness to there is a some demand for a Job concept to the devs. We each have a way with dealing with situation. I suppose for me, instead of sitting and being quiet, I want to try to do something.

This game is like 7 years old.

Since ARR is what I ment so 4 year old. They had to scrap three years of the orignial to remake the game.

[Felis]

This game is like 7 years old.

4 years
2013-2017

1.0 don't count

[Kazrah]

Dark Knights are diffrent. It is an alternative, but ultimatly not what people want. It could be asthetic appeal, animation appeal or visual appeal.

Yes, visual differences, but in the end, anything like that would just be a Dark Knight with what may as well be the old Doman gear from the start of the expansion.

[ErikMynhier]

4 years
2013-2017

1.0 don't count

It kind of does when you consider how much of the original code flows through the game now. YP's team has done what they could to clean it up and all but its still in a 1.0 framework in a lot of ways. The facts are the facts, its a 7 year old game and that's why other games seem a bit prettier. Be proud of your age people, don't fudge it just because you're feeling old.

[Yin111]

Yes, visual differences, but in the end, anything like that would just be a Dark Knight with what may as well be the old Doman gear from the start of the expansion.

I belive I understand what you are trying to say. I can not quite put into words correctly. But, a Dark Knight's theme is to use dark powers to harm your enimes and sheild yourself from harm. They primarly use great swords and their animations reflect that weapon. You can theroreticlly give a blade type weapon to Dark Knight, but the job would not properly utalize the weapon corecctly on the visual side as the job was designed conceptualy to use dark powers and great swords, not bladed weapons.

A Shogun, is to give it more Sengoku styled armor. To use a weapons such as a Nodachi or other weapon, with animaions, skills and effects that shows martial prowes of a fictional Japanese warrior.

[Kiyashi]

Samurai in XIV is a DPS. It's not a tank and will never be a tank b/c if it is a tank then the DRK players that wanted it a DPS would then have a good case for their being a DRK DPS class. If you wanted SAM a tank I'm sorry but it's not, in this game it's going to be a DPS like it was in XI. Look towards the next expansion to see what new Tank job we'll get as it seems it'll be a healer and tank in the next expansion to keep the balance going.

[Yin111]

Samurai in XIV is a DPS. It's not a tank and will never be a tank b/c if it is a tank then the DRK players that wanted it a DPS would then have a good case for their being a DRK DPS class. If you wanted SAM a tank I'm sorry but it's not, in this game it's going to be a DPS like it was in XI. Look towards the next expansion to see what new Tank job we'll get as it seems it'll be a healer and tank in the next expansion to keep the balance going.

Samurai is not a tank, its DPS. I am not asking for Samurai to not be a DPS and Become Tank. I am asking for the devs to consider Shogun as a potential new job original to XIV. Similerly, if people want a Dark Knight type job as a DPS, it is also possible. But it need to be under a new name, use a diffrent weapon, but still use dark powers. Either of which can be implemened in diffrent ways that we can't think of, since we are not trained to create game content.

I undertand it is easier to give up and not do anything, but if nothing is done or attempted, how would devs know?

[SaitoHajime]

Samurai is not a tank, its DPS. I am not asking for Samurai to not be a DPS and Become Tank. I am asking for the devs to consider Shogun as a potential new job original to XIV. Similerly, if people want a Dark Knight type job as a DPS, it is also possible. It need to be under a new name, use a diffrent weapon, but still use dark powers. Either of which can be implemened in diffrent ways that we can't think of, since we are not trained to create game content.

tbh drk and war do more dps than most dps anyway. so might aswell

[Kaedan]

Just play Dark Knight. We use two-handed swords and a few styles look like katanas.

Yes, I know it's not the same thing, but a Shogun would be far, far too much overlap and redundancy.

[DarthSanguine]

It is true in what you say. However, jobs seems to rotate around the weapons they use. Would it still be impossible if Shogun not used a Katana but a Nodachi or Odachi? Or a in case of a Black Knight a sycle (off the top of my head)? Much like how Red Mage uses a sword but specificly a Rapier, a Palidan the basic sword and sheild, the Dark Knight a great sword.

What about a Kanabō? We don't have many blunt weapons after all...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanab%C5%8D