the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

[CookieMonsta]

The 275 Alexander weapons have been in the game since 3.4. Back then, most "casuals" were locked into getting only the 260 relic or the base 260 Shire weapon after 7 weeks of farming A12. Those who successfully finished A12S could obtain a 275 .

Lol honestly, FFXIV is the only game that rewards you for doing jack shit. I cannot really think of any other title that ensures that the welfare people are within spitting distance of players who are dedicated. You beat the hardest content, you get the best gear.....except it isn't the best gear. Doesn't this sound wrong?

There really isn't much point to putting up with endgame content unless you enjoy the company of others. The progression is the same, everyone becomes the same or similar in the end. You play to progress the power of your character, everything boils down to this. Why bother with exponential effort for something that becomes easier later?

[Belhi]

The anima weapons will be equal or superior to the Alexander weapons for a period of 3-4 months in the period before stormblood launches and everyone starts levelling up and leaving behind their current gear anyway. Any skilled Savage raider will likely have their weapon months in advance and would likely have cleared everything of relevance with it already. In both cases the weapon is going to be replaced by a lvl 65 one in 4 and a half months.

People often don't understand the point of the relic/anima. Its to give more casual players an option for grinding out a high level weapon, trading difficulty for time. The relic takes a monumental amount of time. The current step can be completed in 6-9 hours depending on your luck and if you are constantly requeuing. However the step prior took a hell of a lot longer. 24000 tomstones of lore. That isn't quick to grind through in any situation. The step before that took 9000 lore or 5 weeks of running Crystal Tower. The step before that is another 12000 tomestones and that is post nerf. It was even worse beforehand.

Anima takes a monumental amount of grinding but it provides goals to casual players who aren't interested in the stress of savage raiding. If it was just Glamour the number of people actually bothering with it would be far less and frankly since Glamour is very subjective its very unpredictable wether people would bother with it. Case in point, I have hated every bow anima model till the latest but a BRD in my FC loves all of them.

[RaijinSupreme]

Lol honestly, FFXIV is the only game that rewards you for doing jack shit. I cannot really think of any other title that ensures that the welfare people are within spitting distance of players who are dedicated. You beat the hardest content, you get the best gear.....except it isn't the best gear. Doesn't this sound wrong?

There really isn't much point to putting up with endgame content unless you enjoy the company of others. The progression is the same, everyone becomes the same or similar in the end. You play to progress the power of your character, everything boils down to this. Why bother with exponential effort for something that becomes easier later?

I mean this was the case in 2.0, and we already knew this was the case in 3.0 since gordias.

So now knowing this, are you going to keep raiding?

[technole]

I've had my Alex Codex i275 for months. But their choice of stats obviously made the 270 anima a better weapon for DPS.

See I did agree with YoshiP on how they changed their anima philosophy after Gordias where they said it's ilevel would not match the raid weapon to give further incentive to raiding. Like the Midan weapons topped at i245, but the anima only went to i240 before the end of 3.3. I personally wouldn't have mind if they actually ended the anima at i270 to be in-line with that.

Time spent grinding an anima/relic really should not match or surpass raid weapons in stat quality (this one always makes us scratch our heads, they just spin the wheel for weapon stats), which are acquired through difficult content in the game, and only one of them drops a week for a raid. Then if you are that unlucky it takes 2 months of clears to buy your own i275.

[Felis]

Actually it only took about 20 hours of A1S grinding to get 260-270. How do you not know about this, people? No step (even if current step) is time consuming, you just grind for a few dozen hours...and its done. BAM you are rewarded! GREAT JOB! YOURE THE BEST!

Please, tell me the trick to earn 20k lore tome within a couple of hours

[technole]

Please, tell me the trick to earn 20k lore tome within a couple of hours

For the 260-270 step you can spend GC seals, lore, or even poetics to get the 15 items. All those A1S books can help you get items which turn-in for just over 1k seals each, and if you are actually lotting the junk that helps.

[ReplicaX]

For the 260-270 step you can spend GC seals, lore, or even poetics to get the 15 items. All those A1S books can help you get items which turn-in for just over 1k seals each, and if you are actually lotting the junk that helps.

And the umbrite stage solution?

[Mindylou]

Relics should be 2x more powerful then the raiding weapons.
Raiders should not even count for the few that spend their lives doing so and for the miniscule income they provide this entire game.

Only unattractive, basement dwellers and (probably virgins) share similar opinions to op.

You know the type that ppl just avoid or feel sorry for irl ...

[Reynhart]

For the 260-270 step you can spend GC seals, lore, or even poetics to get the 15 items.

I think it's more about the i260 step, with the (at worst) 24000 lore requirement, which is really really long and boring.

[ManuelBravo]

Your reward for raiding and "mastering" the game isn't the best gear, you know.
It's getting the best gear first. All the other "filthy casual scrubs" are getting their gear one patch later.

How about you invest some time in clearing Common Sense Savage? The rewards for that raid will literally change your life and no one will be able to take them away from you.

While your comment makes some sense, to an extend,I disagree. Relics should perhaps include some savage based steps as well but should be considered the strongest weapons in the game. While not everyone is into savage do to FC restrictions, or rather play solo, it can be challenging to queue for them when savage is mainly do to lack of experience. Some groups would rather re queue than to take a new person or even give them a chance. As for common sense savage, question what part of that is common sense? Yes it has nice ( air quotes ) Temporarily high gear, but then what? it's glamor. Don't get me wrong I respect your opinion , maybe you do relics, maybe you don't your profile doesn't give access to your achievements, should perhaps try to understand why people do relics to begin with. As of right now I don't think you have experienced the satisfaction of doing a relic weapon.