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    Player
    CookieMonsta's Avatar
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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    Guess what! you did A1S 100 times in 3.5 and how have an i270 wep with best secondary stats for your job! Grats!

    Wait...really?

    These weps should be for glam and/or at least 30ilvls lower than the current BiS weps in the game. You literally do nothing of skill to achieve exactly what those who bust their ass actually learning and mastering the game achieve.
    Make these things glam only or reduce their ilvl and stats because its outrageous and insulting.
    This needs to stop.
    dat clickbait, you just wanna see the world burn
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Dancer Lv 100
    What about the rest of the steps starting from the 1st step of Anima ?
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    Dinah Demiurge
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    Gilgamesh
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    Culinarian Lv 75
    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    What about the rest of the steps starting from the 1st step of Anima ?
    What about it? I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the relevant step is always just 2-3 days to get the new ilvl for it. You're completely missing my point aren't you?
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    What about it? I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the relevant step is always just 2-3 days to get the new ilvl for it. You're completely missing my point aren't you?
    And I think you're missing THE point. A relic starting from scratch takes ages. And, from release, it takes ages to get an inferior weapon to something you can get from a primal or tomes. Only in the last patches of the expansion does it finally catch up to the best gear. Meanwhile, alex, from release, has been i275.

    So not only do you have to perform every step in the long grind to get a relic, but you have to wait an entire expansion for it to be as good as (or better than) the raid weapon you could have gotten 1 month in and then in a few months time, everything from that expansion is obsolete.
    (8)
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Arty Highbrush
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    Scholar Lv 70
    How is 20 hours of grinding not time consuming? O.o
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aronys View Post
    How is 20 hours of grinding not time consuming? O.o
    dont forget times that on how many relic you already have XD. the waterfall of tears
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge View Post
    Did I stutter?
    Yes you did
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    Player
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    Arty Highbrush
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 70
    And the newest savage raids are usually done in less. Your point?
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    And you know what players that also raid do have Relic weapons as well (some do).
    You fail to see that some players like the grind that comes with Relic, no reason it should not be "Powerful" like it currently is.
    And what about the tome weapons? This does not really require any skills at all really...
    Not everyone has time or could be part of or find groups to raid, Relic is a different path is all.
    Only thing i would say is certain parts of it should have some sort of Challenge like the Relic back in the day having to defeat Primals in sub 90 gear
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    Player
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    Scholar Lv 70
    It will be... in a patch after. You are forgetting that the relic is always a patch behind. So you get to have your shiny BiS weapon for 3 whole months before the relic crowd. How is that not enough for you? You get it, you beat the content. The relic crowd needs to wait and is ALWAYS behind.
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