Thread: the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

Guess what! you did A1S 100 times in 3.5 and how have an i270 wep with best secondary stats for your job! Grats!

Wait...really?

These weps should be for glam and/or at least 30ilvls lower than the current BiS weps in the game. You literally do nothing of skill to achieve exactly what those who bust their ass actually learning and mastering the game achieve.
Make these things glam only or reduce their ilvl and stats because its outrageous and insulting.
This needs to stop.

Aren't you the same person who got salty about spending 16hrs trying to farm Zurvan EX on day one? (/think)

Don't be so jealous.

Savage raiding shouldn't be the only end-game goal for XIV. Don't underestimate the amount of time needed and dedication to work through an animal quest chain.
You may spend so many hours trying to clear A12, others may spend many hours getting their weapon.
It's not even bis yet until a later patch, the relics are enough however, to enter savage content and clear it.
If you are jealous of those with relics, just get one?

Originally Posted by CamomileTea

Savage raiding shouldn't be the only end-game goal for XIV. Don't underestimate the amount of time needed and dedication to work through an animal quest chain.
You may spend so many hours trying to clear A12, others may spend many hours getting their weapon.
It's not even bis yet until a later patch, the relics are enough however, to enter savage content and clear it.
If you are jealous of those with relics, just get one?

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

I raid too and I totally disagree with you. My merit and achievement comes from actually clearing the hardest content in the game. I don't need to take gear away from other players to keep my achievements. I don't think your idea of merits and achievements is a very good one.

Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

The point is to give struggling players a slight edge. Maybe they are close to an A11S clear but needed that extra damage from their Anima. As someone who cleared Savage well before 3.5, I couldn't care less if an easier path is made for inexperienced players. Good for them. Maybe next raid tier, they'll have learned enough to not need their relic, and that's only a good thing.

Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

This attitude among the so-called "pros" has gotta go. What makes you guys think your "special snowflake" status is under some kind of threat just because some of us would rather build the best weapon for us through other avenues rather than beating our heads against the wall in content that you don't want us doing anyway?

Let people have fun on their own terms, for once.