Please lift glamour restrictions!

[bswpayton]

I'm really hoping that we can get some sort of out reach going so the devs can actually move towards this direction in the future. I'm sorry for those whom disagree there is just really no argument considering our current glamour system.

Yes we want it all and there is nothing wrong with that this is a video game, so unbreakable rules or lore really shouldnt be an issue that happens in real life this is not real life and its a made up fantasy world. So Im hoping that something changes in the future because like I said this would hopefully enhance the glamour system to become better than it is now, and its truely something everyone can do. Everyone doesnt raid, everyone doesnt craft, but many if not all people use the glamour system and I hope we can actually get these restrictions lifted at some point.

[Wanzer]

I'm sorry for those whom disagree there is just really no argument considering our current glamour system.

Just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean there is non.

And no, "fantasy" doesn't mean there is no rules. Even fantasy worlds are coherent; despite the fact that we can wear pig suits or bikinis (because... Well, people explained that too, but better to ignore it to make your points, i guess). So, you should stop with that fantasy card, because it makes no sense.

And it's not because "all" people use the glamour system that we have to change how the AFs work... Yes, there is some improvements to do about the glamour system, but the way you want is just not the good one.

Anyway, I'm still hoping for more various designs, like armors for casters or even robes for tanks, but made for them.

[bswpayton]

Just because you choose to ignore them doesn't mean there is non.

And no, ".

Because of the very nature of this game there simply shouldn't be any restrictions at all on glamour, and there is no excuse for the pig suit it doesn't matter if its level one all can wear or not.

Cause I'm sure if it was only exclusive to monks then you would be saying that only monks should be able to wear the monk pig suit. You cant tell players look you can be any job you want in this game all 24 of them, but when your playing them you have to pretend like they are all separate from each other. To restrict glamoured gear to me totally defeats the purpose of letting do them all on my single character, as I mention there is a big rp portion of the community and some people like to tie their jobs together.

I dont play my jobs as if they are all different things as I mention, the game doesn't make sense of the job system so I create my own system because as a player I have the freedom to do so regardless of what anyone else says. So if I would like to play my drk as a blm with a sword , or paladin as my whm with a sword and shield, are any other match Id like to do because I can level all on one it makes sense to me. So what lifting these restrictions would do is allow me to play into my rp even more , just like it would do for anyone else, that likes to play the game as they please instead of following lore from 13 other games its ok for me to do this.

I really hope that the next job is gona be something that its totally not suppose to be like a blue mage as a tank so that people can see that the lore changes based on how the devs want it to change. Just like I mention before in one game drk was a dps in this game they are tanks so if I see SE changing their lore as they see fit then Im not gona hold it to some gold standard if the very company that makes the lore isnt even doing it themselves.

[Wanzer]

Because of the very nature of this game there simply shouldn't be any restrictions at all on glamour,

If for you they shouldn't have any "restrictions", then you really don't know how fantasy worlds are made. :|
By the way, there is already some mmo with no real restrictions, they mostly feel very empty because they lose (or never had) their own identity.
Iconic gears are very important.

I really hope that the next job is gona be something that its totally not suppose to be like a blue mage as a tank so that people can see that the lore changes based on how the devs want it to change. Just like I mention before in one game drk was a dps in this game they are tanks so if I see SE changing their lore as they see fit then Im not gona hold it to some gold standard if the very company that makes the lore isnt even doing it themselves.

Well... Then why don't you just accept what the dev team wants ? Especially since they already said how the AFs are important to them in this way.

And nothing wrong with a mage tank.
DRK was a DPS in FFXI and changed to tank for FFXIV. But once the things are added (with their back stories etc), there is no point to break them just to wear a different panty.

[bswpayton]

If for you they shouldn't have any "restrictions", then you really don't know how fantasy worlds are made. :|
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The actually jobs themselves give out the identity not the gear, you know like , different weapons, and abilities job quest all of those things. If you are wearing a bunny suit during all of this it doesn't make you lose that identity, lets just be real here like I've said if you remove these restrictions you guys are just automatically assuming that then all of a sudden people are gona start wearing from head to toe full on af gear sets.

Is the op asking to put the whole summoner set on his scholar no, when Ive mention stuff am I requesting to put a whole entire set AF gear on another job nope. What removing this restriction would do is open the door to paste over hats, gloves, boots, stuff like that. And even if people used chest pieces or pants that still doesnt mean that they would then wear the whole entire set on a different Job. Like I said I'm on three servers and I hardly ever see people wearing job specific gear the whole entire set very rarely.

[Wanzer]

Is the op asking to put the whole summoner set on his scholar no, when Ive mention stuff am I requesting to put a whole entire set AF gear on another job nope. What removing this restriction would do is open the door to paste over hats, gloves, boots, stuff like that. And even if people used chest pieces or pants that still doesnt mean that they would then wear the whole entire set on a different Job. Like I said I'm on three servers and I hardly ever see people wearing job specific gear the whole entire set very rarely.

Yeah, i already understood that : You just want to remove the restrictions just for being able to wear some parts of the AFs. We got it. Like, at the first message. But again, you choose to ignore a part of my previous message, referring to another message that you also ignored just to make your point (the one about the dev team).

You even said :

I really hope that the next job is gona be something that its totally not suppose to be like a blue mage as a tank so that people can see that the lore changes based on how the devs want it to change. Just like I mention before in one game drk was a dps in this game they are tanks so if I see SE changing their lore as they see fit then Im not gona hold it to some gold standard if the very company that makes the lore isnt even doing it themselves.

Then again... Why don't you just accept what the dev team wants ? Especially since they already stated how the AFs are important to them. DRK was a DPS in FFXI and became a tank in FFXIV, and we all accepted it. And there is nothing wrong with a mage tank. But, again, once things are added and we are all aware of its purpose/lore/identity, there is no point to argue about it. It is what it is. So, your example about the BLU is kinda... Bleh.

And you totally missed the point when i talked about the identity of the game. But... Well, as you just take what you want for your next message to proclaim that there is no relevant arguments around, I shouldn't bother to explain.

Like I said I'm on three servers and I hardly ever see people wearing job specific gear the whole entire set very rarely.

And now your eyes are able to bring us some real statistics. It's so beautiful.
But... From my point of view, it's not that rare to find people wearing AFs. Sooo... Maybe we shouldn't go on that way. That makes no sense. ^^

[bswpayton]

Yeah, i already understood that : You just want to remove the restrictions just for being able to wear some parts of the AFs. We got it. Like, at the first message. But again, you choose to .

That's not my intentions to ignore what people are sayin and I apologize if it came across in that manner. But I just simply cant accept every piece of lore in the game like you guys do, I've mention cutting corners, if lore was so important then we wouldn't be getting a jump potion the devs would stick by their own lore. Lore is only a portion of the game, keeping subs, and having people enjoy the game will always trump lore, to lores standards then they better not give people that use jump potions any of the level 50 af gear because the only way that you would receive such gear is by doing the things in that job quest lore story line.

The very jump potion post is blaming said lore , for the whole reason in creating it in the first place. So you cant expect me to acknowledge that lore is set in stone when this year people will have access to skipping every bit of lore that we have play through in the entire game(which im 100 percent ok with btw). If players can skip through the very core of lore which is the story of the game , then there is absolutely no reason that lore should hold players back from wearing boots from another job.

You can not have it both ways and say that lore is not important enough to where players can skip the story if they pay money thus skipping everything and having it completed, and then on the other hand say that lore is to important to where it holds players back from creating a glamour choice.


On a side note how do you guys re edit , your post and put quests in and stuff , I been tryin to figure out how to do this for the longest and its not working Ive never used a forum until this game so im clueless.

[Enur]

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I think you are confusing lore with the series tradition. DRK being a dps isnt lore, thats tradition. Lore, is what keeps the jobs seperated. Lore is what keeps everything consistent and fitting within the world. And if a gear set has a story tied to a job, it should stay locked to that job.
All of the artifact sets have lore tieing them to their respective job.

You are also not learning every job and becoming one super job. That is not the point of the quests. The point is that you learn many differing varieties of combat, separate from one another. You get a job crystal that allows you to use the actions of the specified job. Yes there are skills your character just has learned themselves. And those can be used through the crossclass system. Ever wondered why the amount of skills available for crossclass increases when youre just a class? a job is for a specific purpose. and so is their gear.

[bswpayton]

I think you are confusing lore with the series tradition. DRK being a dps isnt lore, thats tradition. Lore, is what keeps the jobs seperated. Lore is what keeps everything consistent and fitting .

I totally know what your saying like when you get sent on job quest etc, and they are like this is the holy set of this or that something of the sort.

I get that part ,but the world isnt gona end if my blm wants to wear the white mage gloves. Everyone seems to be thinking full on gear sets when even this very post is just a pair of boots, if they lifted this restrictions would their be some people wearing full gear sets just because sure. But I'm ok with lifting said restrictions so people that just want smaller pieces can just mix and match them with other glamour outfits they choose. The very first two examples were a single pair of boots, and a pair of pants neither of them where full on gear sets. IF people get this out of their head, that more than likely the majority of players askin for this change arent asking to wear an entire gear set on a different job then maybe they would see that its not really that big of a deal.

As I mention earlier on this tread the lore does not explain the job system in ff 14, so if I as a player wants to play as if Im one single job then why cant I the game didnt explain it to me and I didn't play other ff games with the same job system so it just leaves the notion essentially in my own hands.

[Naunet]

I think you are confusing lore with the series tradition. DRK being a dps isnt lore, thats tradition. Lore, is what keeps the jobs seperated. Lore is what keeps everything consistent and fitting within the world. And if a gear set has a story tied to a job, it should stay locked to that job.
All of the artifact sets have lore tieing them to their respective job.

Lore that we experienced when doing the job quests, and then that item is in our possession. Considering the lore behind what a glamour is, there's no reason a person who has gone through and been gifted these clothes shouldn't be able to use them as they see fit. I've never seen any indication in-game that NPCs would be upset or feel like a job was "desecrated" if the player character would wear a glamour using pieces of an outfit they earned while not that particular job.