Please lift glamour restrictions!

[DaikiKiyoshi]

:3

I don't understand that argument either because depending on your situation you could end up in a party with 7 other identical looking people who are the same class. Regardless of your class someone else looking similar or identical to you in this game is always a possibility and shouldn't bother you at all. It can already happen.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Snip.

False equivalency. Character models are a separate issue and have nothing at all to do with job specific gear.

[Khanscott]

I say if you can equip it on the class its meant for, you can glamor it. I see tanks wearing things made of unmetalic cloth and healers barely wearing anything glammed on a daily basis in instances. In MY opinion, that breaks immersion but that is also MY personal gripe as to why glam restrictions need to be rescended to an extent. If a 60 SCH wants to glam PLD Shire gear to their 60 Shire heal set then let them if they got PLD to 60. ...I mean it does make sense for the upcoming DRGmage to be able to wear DRG armor after all.

[ErryK]

Except that said caster is not really wearing the so called sacred ninja armor. They are casting an illusion on the mage armor they are really wearing to make it look like ninja armor.

Why do they need to cast the illusion of the Ninja armor? Why are they trying to make their Black Mage look like a Ninja? Why aren't they playing the Ninja class instead of desecrating the aesthetics of the Ninja culture?

Questions that cannot be answered because job-specific AF gear shouldn't be shared. Regardless of it being a glamour or not.

I really don't understand why the idea of this being possible triggers people so much.

Because creative initiatives need to be put in place to retain the identity of the job. Which is why we have the argument Yoshi presents, if you have a character that looks like a White Mage but then pulls out this massive sword... it's like why even have job gear anymore at that point? It loses all identity because it begins to be disassociated from whence it came from.

[Miste]

Live..and let live. To each...his own.

So you start your post with live and let live. To each his own...then spend the rest of the post laughing that people actually exist who have different opinions than you...

I know it is such an absurd concept right that such people could actually exist; very laughable :/

I realize the topic is far from a serious real world debate, but really? Sigh.

The first post, as of this post, has 49 likes, that is hardly "many of us" (since most of the player base doesn't even use the forums) so pretending that your stance is the majority without knowing real statistics about how many people actually agree with you is a pointless argument to use in your favour.

As for the other points the only one I support is the lore reason. Yeah, they've already done stuff with gear that doesn't follow lore, which is exactly why some of us don't want to remove the lore from this too. I don't see why that is so laughable. I could just turn it around on you that 'if the thought of not having that small 5-10% of gear in the game unrestricted for you to use upsets you (lol) then you need to chill.'

[Nestama]

Well a tank can already wear some mage gear, though only if it's below level 50. Then there's the Halloween gear from two years ago which, from a distance and from behind, looks like Black Mage gear in a way.

[Gemina]

Think about if this thread popped up after Stormblood's release. Could you imagine the rage people would have if RDM's pimp hat could be glammed by any job?

Some of you think there will be no consequences by lifting the restrictions? Are you serious? Hundreds of players would undoubtedly cancel their subs. Some of you seriously fail to contemplate exactly how much to heart the fans and devs take in the identities given to the iconic jobs of the franchise. The replies in this thread are very indicative that you have no clue, have no respect, or both.

It is correct that lifting the restriction doesn't impede any of the gameplay, but Final Fantasy is far more than just the gameplay. It's more than just an MMO. These devs work their asses off to provide a unique experience to the gaming community while also struggling to make it marketable while keeping its identity intact. The content they provide instead of savored while chewed, is constantly devoured whole and little thanks given. I can't even think about the challenge of satiating a rabid player base. I feel so bad for them sometimes., especially if they read a thread like this one.

I always try to see both sides of things, but in this case it is really difficult to do so when one side just can't understand why regardless of the circumstances, or how a game is structured, it is simply inappropriate for one job to be wearing OR GLAMOUR ANY of the pieces of artifact gear from another job. If you can't get it through your heads why it just isn't ok, then you just don't understand Final Fantasy.

[ReplicaX]

Some of you seriously fail to contemplate exactly how much to heart the fans and devs take in the identities given to the iconic jobs of the franchise. The replies in this thread are very indicative that you have no clue, have no respect, or both.

The main point I have been making. Many of them want no middle ground at all.

So directly from the source with interviews...

Source: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/fina...living-economy

USG: The higher-level gear is very Final Fantasy in feel. Dragoons look like Kain Highwind from Final Fantasy IV for example. How do you carry that idea forward as you start raising the level cap?

NY: I'd like to thank you. When you say that it feels like real Final Fantasy armor and it enhances that job, that's exactly what we're aiming for when we designed those. We do have more in store. I can't tell you much, but we're currently designing and developing the next set of artifact armor, which will expand on those designs. It's going to be even greater than what we have now. It will feature a lot of the designs based on the original work from Mr. Amano. We can't tell you anymore, but that armor will be released very soon. It's really, really cool.

USG: Do you feel that's a chance for you to define what these jobs are in Final Fantasy as a whole? Do you get to carve out a new path for what a Dragoon or Black Mage looks like?

NY: That's a good question because we try to change a little bit and try something new with each design. However the art team can get a little nervous when having to change something. They ask, 'How far can we go?' They understand that the fans expect certain things, but they want to try things themselves. What we've decided is that for PVP armor, we allow them to use their whole creativity and do things that are really original. When it comes to PVE, we want them to respect what came before. So you have that basic silhouette that a staple of the Final Fantasy series and then we build off of that. Maybe keep that silhouette, but at something that's little bit Final Fantasy XIV to that while maintaining the original. Adding to that and seeing how the players react to that change. If the response is good, then may change it a little more for the next set of armor. Keeping the new and original along with the traditional.

If you do not know who Yoshitaka Amano is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitaka_Amano

Source: http://www.dualshockers.com/2012/11/...nt-screencaps/

Q30: Can you tell us what’s planned for equipment dyeing? Can you dye artifact?

A30: For dyeing, there will be colors that can be purchased from NPCs and there will also be those that will be made by Disciples of the Land/Hand. It will be possible to dye gear that has already been dyed a different color. At the start there will be 24 colors, but there will also be rare colors besides these 24. In regards to the methods for dying, the places you can dye are decided based on the equipment, and only that part can be dyed. For artifact we are not planning to allow for color changes at first. We don’t want to destroy the image of artifact armor, but we’d like to do this in the future.

Again, they take their Original Creative Works very seriously. It has a lot of tradition and pride. This is the series that saved this Company.

So whats the excuse when the guy in the pig suit pulls out that same big sword?

While there are restrictions inplace, the company wants the playerbase to have fun and a certain amount of freedoms. Its called the middle ground. But by all means continue to fall back on Pig Suits, Seasonal Gear, and Vanity Items as a crutch.

[bswpayton]

Why do they need to cast the illusion of the Ninja armor? Why are they trying to make their Black Mage look like a Ninja? Why aren't they playing the Ninja class instead of desecrating the aesthetics of the Ninja culture?

Questions that cannot be answered because job-specific AF gear shouldn't be shared. Regardless of it being a glamour or not.



Because creative initiatives need to be put in place to retain the identity of the job. Which is why we have the argument Yoshi presents, if you have a character that looks like a White Mage but then pulls out this massive sword... it's like why even have job gear anymore at that point? It loses all identity because it begins to be disassociated from whence it came from.

So whats the excuse when the guy in the pig suit pulls out that same big sword?

[myahele]

The devs will impose or lift whatever limitation they want.

In another thread, it was said that Emperor's New Shield will become available eventually