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  1. #191
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahdah View Post
    If SAM is DPS, who will be the tank of expansion ? I think SAM only can be tank.
    - Beast Master
    - Blue Mage
    - Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer (fits DPS better, but could be a Tank)
    - Red Mage

    There are probably more, but I reckon SE has enough FF classes to turn into a Tank. In the end, A DPS SAM or a Tank SAM, I dont care, aslong as they are fun to play.
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  2. #192
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    LOL this thread got 9 likes so far, from 20 pages. Clearly they shouldn't make Samurai a tank for 9 people to play it.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahdah View Post
    If SAM is DPS, who will be the tank of expansion ? I think SAM only can be tank.
    Well... Who's to say we would even get a job for each role in this expansion? When talking about heavensward jobs, Yoshida talked about how his dev team didn't want to do 3 jobs per expansion anymore because it was too much work. Saying this now though... I want ATLEAST 3 new jobs per expansion but it seems like we may be getting only 2. Completely possible that we only get a healer and a dps or tank and a healer or 2 dps. You get the picture.
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    Last edited by Wolf_Heartnet; 12-19-2016 at 09:47 PM.

  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet View Post
    Well... Whos to say we would even get a job for each role in this expansion? When talking about heavensward jobs, Yoshida talked about how his dev team didn't want to do 3 jobs per expansion anymore because it was too much work. Saying this now though... I want ATLEAST 3 new jobs per expansion but it seems like we may be getting only 2. Completely possible that we only get a healer and a dps or tank and a healer or 2 dps. You get the picture.
    Didnt Yoshida say the 3 Rangers from the Summer event were a hint to the new classes? I assumed 3 Rangers = 3 Classes
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Didnt Yoshida say the 3 Rangers from the Summer event were a hint to the new classes? I assumed 3 Rangers = 3 Classes
    Don't know about that. Wasn't around for that event nor did i hear Yoshida say that. Not saying it didn't happen tho, i just wasn't around for it. Like i said, I want atleast 3 so I ain't going to argue that! xD
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  6. #196
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    I have two questions, why do we need a sword DPS, and why is it so hard to to fathom RDM being suited to that particular role? Many in this community will jump near impossible hurdles to shoehorn RDM in to the TANK role, why? We already have a magic and sword wielding TANK job in DRK. "Samurai would be to similar to DRK so it can't be a TANK because...(insert nonsense)", Samurai use over heavy swords, magic derived from the void, and have to mage MP as a primary source of combat? It would certainly be a new take on the job i'll give you that.

    Secondly, why should the the TANK role not have an eastern themed job? We have the Norse covered with WAR, European aspects with both DRK and PLD and yet in these tentative first steps to the east we should find no TANKS among Ala Mhigo and Doma? Small wonder they fell lore wise, no one could muster a solid defense...

    In a more recent storyline cut scene we had a character give very strong hints at RDM, even going as far as to pit their "Limit Break" like special move against an enemy DPS casters "Limit Break" ... As in DPS vs DPS LB.
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    I understand Samurai will more likely be DPS, it should not be. It's popularity would not only bring in people to the TANK role due to it'd thematic appearance, but it would also keep current TANKS from jumping ship to DPS in the early days of anew expansion. Time desperately needed to hook new players just coming in to the game. It by merit of popularity, would allow for faster que times in DF, provide a solid solo experience for those just coming in to the game (soloing as a TANK is much easier than the other roles, particularly in trials that often negate the use of party members and chocobo's, something new players would not even have access to...)

    When it comes down to it we simply have different views of what Samurai are. DPS Samurai supporters seem to want this.


    I'll speak for myself and say i want this as a TANK. Though i suspect we'll know soon enough, something tells me not only will we get RDM official announcement, but also Samurai, complete with role selection.
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    Last edited by Alacran; 12-19-2016 at 11:04 PM.

  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post

    Yeah, nah.
    Dude I love memes epic for the win am I right? XDDD
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    The thing is, if they add SAM as a tank I don't see what new it could bring :/ (same for a 4th healer tho)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet View Post
    Well... Who's to say we would even get a job for each role in this expansion? When talking about heavensward jobs, Yoshida talked about how his dev team didn't want to do 3 jobs per expansion anymore because it was too much work. Saying this now though... I want ATLEAST 3 new jobs per expansion but it seems like we may be getting only 2. Completely possible that we only get a healer and a dps or tank and a healer or 2 dps. You get the picture.
    I really wish people would stop repeating this fallacy again and again. That's not what Yoshida said at the time at all. And people repeating themselves on it won't suddenly make it the truth.
    What Yoshida said is that they wouldn't develop a new job for a patch (aka Ninja) at the same time as developing multiple new jobs for the following expansion. And guess what? We didn't have any jobs in major updates since Ninja.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    It's popularity would not only bring in people to the TANK role due to it'd thematic appearance
    The same thing was said to justify DRK as a tank and it doesn't seem like it had any lasting impact. So, why would SAM be any different?
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    Last edited by KerenRhys; 12-20-2016 at 12:14 AM.

  10. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    The thing is, if they add SAM as a tank I don't see what new it could bring :/ (same for a 4th healer tho)
    More variety, like adding any job. Although the most requested tank mechanic I believe is a Self Shielding Tank, just like we have a Self Healing Tank we could easily also have a Self Shielding one
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