@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[Rahdah]

If SAM is DPS, who will be the tank of expansion ? I think SAM only can be tank.

[Laerune]

If SAM is DPS, who will be the tank of expansion ? I think SAM only can be tank.

- Beast Master
- Blue Mage
- Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer (fits DPS better, but could be a Tank)
- Red Mage

There are probably more, but I reckon SE has enough FF classes to turn into a Tank. In the end, A DPS SAM or a Tank SAM, I dont care, aslong as they are fun to play.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

If SAM is DPS, who will be the tank of expansion ? I think SAM only can be tank.

Well... Who's to say we would even get a job for each role in this expansion? When talking about heavensward jobs, Yoshida talked about how his dev team didn't want to do 3 jobs per expansion anymore because it was too much work. Saying this now though... I want ATLEAST 3 new jobs per expansion but it seems like we may be getting only 2. Completely possible that we only get a healer and a dps or tank and a healer or 2 dps. You get the picture.

[Laerune]

Well... Whos to say we would even get a job for each role in this expansion? When talking about heavensward jobs, Yoshida talked about how his dev team didn't want to do 3 jobs per expansion anymore because it was too much work. Saying this now though... I want ATLEAST 3 new jobs per expansion but it seems like we may be getting only 2. Completely possible that we only get a healer and a dps or tank and a healer or 2 dps. You get the picture.

Didnt Yoshida say the 3 Rangers from the Summer event were a hint to the new classes? I assumed 3 Rangers = 3 Classes

[Wolf_Heartnet]

Didnt Yoshida say the 3 Rangers from the Summer event were a hint to the new classes? I assumed 3 Rangers = 3 Classes

Don't know about that. Wasn't around for that event nor did i hear Yoshida say that. Not saying it didn't happen tho, i just wasn't around for it. Like i said, I want atleast 3 so I ain't going to argue that! xD

[KerenRhys]

Well... Who's to say we would even get a job for each role in this expansion? When talking about heavensward jobs, Yoshida talked about how his dev team didn't want to do 3 jobs per expansion anymore because it was too much work. Saying this now though... I want ATLEAST 3 new jobs per expansion but it seems like we may be getting only 2. Completely possible that we only get a healer and a dps or tank and a healer or 2 dps. You get the picture.

I really wish people would stop repeating this fallacy again and again. That's not what Yoshida said at the time at all. And people repeating themselves on it won't suddenly make it the truth.
What Yoshida said is that they wouldn't develop a new job for a patch (aka Ninja) at the same time as developing multiple new jobs for the following expansion. And guess what? We didn't have any jobs in major updates since Ninja.

It's popularity would not only bring in people to the TANK role due to it'd thematic appearance

The same thing was said to justify DRK as a tank and it doesn't seem like it had any lasting impact. So, why would SAM be any different?

[Wolf_Heartnet]

I really wish people would stop repeating this fallacy again and again. That's not what Yoshida said at the time at all. And people repeating themselves on it won't suddenly make it the truth.
What Yoshida said is that they wouldn't develop a new job for a patch (aka Ninja) at the same time as developing multiple new jobs for the following expansion. And guess what? We didn't have any jobs in major updates since Ninja.



The same thing was said to justify DRK as a tank and it doesn't seem like it had any lasting impact. So, why would SAM be any different?

He did say it though around the time of heavenswards release in a liveletter. I don't know if you read an incorrect translation or simply didn't see it but he did.

[KerenRhys]

He did say it though around the time of heavenswards release in a liveletter. I don't know if you read an incorrect translation or simply didn't see it but he did.

That's false. Either you misremember or you misunderstood what you read/heard. Either way, since I can't find the quote from Yoshida, you're free to believe what you want. We'll soon have all the proofs we need.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

That's false. Either you misremember or you misunderstood what you read/heard. Either way, since I can't find the quote from Yoshida, you're free to believe what you want. We'll soon have all the proofs we need.

Well, you nor i can say what the other says is false unless we provide the source. You are unable to find it and i'm unwilling to sift through the live letter videos to do so. I believe i am right, but if you can find the source to your claim then that would solve who's truly false. Without the source, we can only assume that the majority who are "repeating" means that i am more likely to be correct.

Keyword being likely since like i said, i'm unwilling to look for the source.

[Shippuu]

Well, you nor i can say what the other says is false unless we provide the source. You are unable to find it and i'm unwilling to sift through the live letter videos to do so. I believe i am right, but if you can find the source to your claim then that would solve who's truly false. Without the source, we can only assume that the majority who are "repeating" means that i am more likely to be correct.

The comment comes from the PAX East 2015 Heavensward panel, in which the statement was "For Heavensward we did 3 jobs and the feedback we got from the battle team was 'we would never want to do this again, ever.'"

Which is a far cry from an adamant statement from the producer/director himself or a statement that that would never be the case again.

Also, a lot changes over time, that was from early 2015, and more recent comments from August and November imply there will be more than 2 jobs added.

And no, just because more people parrot information does not make it true, that is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.