@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[FinalWolf]

[mosaicex]

Tank, DPS, I'm fine with either, since I play all kind of roles and jobs, provided we're actually getting SAM at all. I can list both pros and cons for addition to either role.

Only thing that would kill it for me would be the queue time for DPS if SAM is really introduced as DPS job. If DRK's addition managed to kill tank queue to THAT degree during HW's launch I dreaded thinking how much worse would it be for DPS queue.

[Madepossible]

@Shippuu, which cross class skills should the Samurai tank have? Like ofc the paladin one is a must, but would it be interesting to get cross skills from lets say Dark Knight? Which one was used in ff11?

[Katana190]

@Shippuu, which cross class skills should the Samurai tank have? Like ofc the paladin one is a must, but would it be interesting to get cross skills from lets say Dark Knight? Which one was used in ff11?

We don't really know. The cross class system is undergoing a change in 4.0. We'll have more details on that on Saturday though I'm sure.

Again, why is a perfectly plausible RDM DPS not good enough for the "needed" sword DPS?

Why stop at 1 DPS? When they can have 2! Its only fair providing tanks have 2 sword based tanks right? :') inb4 herpderp RDM tank. Completely ignoring that there are much better candidates for tank mages, Blue Mages, Mystic Knight, Rune Fencer etc.

[Legion88]

Why stop at 1 DPS? When they can have 2! Its only fair providing tanks have 2 sword based tanks right? :') inb4 herpderp RDM tank. Completely ignoring that there are much better candidates for tank mages, Blue Mages, Mystic Knight, Rune Fencer etc.

I want a Tank with a two-handed hammer or mace T_T

[Katana190]

I want a Tank with a two-handed hammer or mace T_T

I want this too! But so far RDM and SAM are the most requested and most likely jobs coming out in 4.0 with dancer being a 3rd competitor. Maybe 5.0?

@Katana190 & Legion88, it may be a far fetched idea, but how are your thoughts on cross class trait abilities?

I think traits will also be seeing a change as so many cross classes are conflicted with traits too. It's best to just wait and see for more info at the upcoming fanfests.

[Legion88]

@Shippuu, which cross class skills should the Samurai tank have? Like ofc the paladin one is a must, but would it be interesting to get cross skills from lets say Dark Knight? Which one was used in ff11?

I don't think you have to worry about cross classing in 4.0 anymore

[Madepossible]

@Katana190 & Legion88, it may be a far fetched idea, but how are your thoughts on cross class trait abilities?

[Legion88]

@Katana190 & Legion88, it may be a far fetched idea, but how are your thoughts on cross class trait abilities?

In my personal opinion traits shouldn't be crossclassable, they are a big part of the uniqueness of a job and how his abilities and skills are working. Especially with an eye on the puplished plans to pool some "mandatory" or "equivalent" skills by role (see reworking of the cross class system), the importance of individual traits who modify this pooled skills and bring them in line with the individual job mechanics and feeling rises.

I want this too! But so far RDM and SAM are the most requested and most likely jobs coming out in 4.0 with dancer being a 3rd competitor. Maybe 5.0?

I said it in several other threads: I doubt that they will give us so much jobs, who are so high in the wishlist. From my own point of view we will get one, maybe two from the wishlist, but not more. My bet for a new job goes on RDM, cause the obvious hints since the anniversary event 2015. All other is mostly just wishing from some parts of the community.

[Katana190]

I said it in several other threads: I doubt that they will give us so much jobs, who are so high in the wishlist. From my own point of view we will get one, maybe two from the wishlist, but not more. My bet for a new job goes on RDM, cause the obvious hints since the anniversary event 2015. All other is mostly just wishing from some parts of the community.

I see your point but its not just about these jobs being on the wishlist, but they also fit the theme extremely well. I also believe we will get 3 jobs again (although I believe this is the last time they'll do it or we'll end up with too many jobs) just purely to what he said in an interview about the moonfire event. But I also know not to be disappointed with only 2 regardless.

I just sympathy for healers because they'll be the ones most likely left in the dark which is a shame. And Healing is my off role with Astro because I'm a filthy bandwagoner and loved the changes to it.