@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[Wolf_Heartnet]

So what gear is Red Mage gonna wear? Because part of the design decisions by SE is that tanks share gear which offers the benefit of being able to switch between any of the 3 tanks whenever needed, encouraging people to play those jobs for ease of gearing alone (3 for the price of 1 etc.) Is it going to wear it's own unique tier of armor? Not only would that pollute the loot pools even more than they already are, but SE already re-uses a ton of assets across the role armor, making a new tier of armor just for 1 job is a lot of extra work. If those aren't the options, then what, it's going to share gear with a DPS job? You think it's a good idea for tanks and dps to compete for gear? And if that's not going to happen, then what, RDM is going to wear the heaviest armor in the game which would be a pretty big visual step away from how it's usually always depicted?

Things that need to be considered.

Well, i believe Red Mage will be a healer but i will say this. If Red Mage were to be made into a tank, it doesn't necessarily need it's own gear. It completely depends on how the design for the job is done. They can make all the Red Mage spells scale off of Vit or Det or Strength or Parry etc instead of intelligence/mind. Wouldn't make much sense but it can be done.

For armor designs everyone is pretty much a visual step away from how they are depicted because the artifact armor aren't what everyone wears and even then, with glamours there are dark knights wearing swim trunks or bikinis. Most importantly there is a set of tank gear that looks like something a Red Mage would wear which is Sharlayan Custodian's armor set.

[Shippuu]

Well, i believe Red Mage will be a healer but i will say this. If Red Mage were to be made into a tank, it doesn't necessarily need it's own gear. It completely depends on how the design for the job is done. They can make all the Red Mage spells scale off of Vit or Det or Strength or Parry etc instead of intelligence/mind. Wouldn't make much sense but it can be done.

For armor designs everyone is pretty much a visual step away from how they are depicted because the artifact armor aren't what everyone wears and even then, with glamours there are dark knights wearing swim trunks or bikinis. Most importantly there is a set of tank gear that looks like something a Red Mage would wear which is Sharlayan Custodian's armor set.

"Glamour" is not a valid excuse. And a single armor set, from a dungeon where every job has the same appearance of the armor just palette swapped is a very bad example, especially when the same could be said about SAM tank and the Yasha/Asuran Fending armor (Which wasn't a universally used appearance like the Sharlayan stuff from the Library.)


Red Mage seems an obvious choice for a DPS that would use DEX gear. There are far more sets from that category of armor that would fit them far better, as well as a dex making more sense as a stat for them than VIT+STR.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

"Glamour" is not a valid excuse. And a single armor set, from a dungeon where every job has the same appearance of the armor just palette swapped is a very bad example, especially when the same could be said about SAM tank and the Yasha/Asuran Fending armor (Which wasn't a universally used appearance like the Sharlayan stuff from the Library.)


Red Mage seems an obvious choice for a DPS that would use DEX gear. There are far more sets from that category of armor that would fit them far better, as well as a dex making more sense as a stat for them than VIT+STR.

Saying that glamour is not a valid excuse is DEFINITELY not a valid excuse. Especially since you do not even explain yourself regarding that. So that argument alone has been made automatically invalid. The reason for the 170 tank gear looking the way it is, is because in development for heavensward, their decision for the next tank came down to Dark Knight or Samurai. It wouldn't surprise me that they had already made gear ahead of time for the samurai.

And while Bard/Machinist has some sets that are similar to Red Mage it doesn't neccesarily make as much sense for a caster to be a dex class. Like i said, it makes more sense for it to be a healer because it could use white magic to heal and then go into cleric stance to use black magic. It just makes more sense.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

. They can make all the Red Mage spells scale off of Vit or Det or Strength or Parry etc instead of intelligence/mind. Wouldn't make much sense but it can be done.

Most importantly there is a set of tank gear that looks like something a Red Mage would wear which is Sharlayan Custodian's armor set.

All DRK spells scale off of VIT/STR, and so does PLD's spells, Clemency and Flash. That excuse doesn't even begin to hold water. Also yes, Sharlayan Custodian is Red Mage gear.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

All DRK spells scale off of VIT/STR, and so does PLD's spells, Clemency and Flash. That excuse doesn't even begin to hold water. Also yes, Sharlayan Custodian is Red Mage gear.

Thanks for agreeing with me? Don't see why ur saying its an excuse when you agree with me...

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Thanks for agreeing with me? Don't see why ur saying its an excuse when you agree with me...

I was pointing out the comment that tank spells scaling off of Vit/str not making sense is a bit silly, since tank spells already exist that do just that. XD

[Wolf_Heartnet]

I was pointing out the comment that tank spells scaling off of Vit/str not making sense is a bit silly, since tank spells already exist that do just that. XD

Oh, I see. Yea, I was aware of that. It just doesn't make sense to me since magic is typically obtained from mind/int in final fantasy games. Or Faith if you count some other games like tactics. lol