FFXIV has some serious competition with WoW: Legion

[KeluBehemoth]

What reason do you have to visit 12-year old zones ? Didn't you already finish everything you can have there ?

Yes, you can, but why ? You already killed him dozens of time, I guess, so what makes you still want to go there and do that besides "I just want to do it" ?

In XIV, each time you change job, you can roam past zones to do FATEs, to do levequest, to complete you bestiary, or do some quests that you may have left especially for alt jobs. Gathering is also a full system, with its proper endgame especially if you craft upon that. A craft system so complete you could actually only play crafters and still spend months into the game.

You can't purposely skip every reason to travel around the zones then saying there's no reason to do so.

Because theres a ton of loot I never got that I want? Theres Transmogs (Glamour), achievements, personal achievements, mounts, legendary weapons.

What reward do FATEs and Levequests give? They're boring, their monetary rewards are trash and if I don't need the EXP their exp rewards are also trash. Also... even without the EXP, they're still trash. They're typically extremely boring quests "Kill this many of these within this tiny area".

As I said before. Why am I going to do things that are boring? I already said I craft and gather. I do it to make money sometimes. Other than that. Outside of doing my scrips sometimes, I don't do it. Because its really truly boring.

Like I said "Mom I'm bored" response "Go clean your room".

Seriously. You people need to take off the rose tinted glasses. I fucking love this game. I love Final Fantasy. But this game feels way too much like something I should be playing on my Cellphone and next Xpac I'm tossing it if it doesn't change. I've never ever quit an MMO because it was stale. I've walked away for a while to do other things but never really with intention. If things don't change next Xpac, I am gone and I know many. many, many others will be as well.

I really shouldn't expect any less though. These threads always get assaulted by white knights coming to defend the game. Its a pretty game with great combat and story but its content model is absolute shit.

[-Teria-]

Seriously. You people need to take off the rose tinted glasses. I fucking love this game. I love Final Fantasy. But this game feels way too much like something I should be playing on my Cellphone and next Xpac I'm tossing it if it doesn't change. I've never ever quit an MMO because it was stale. I've walked away for a while to do other things but never really with intention. If things don't change next Xpac, I am gone and I know many. many, many others will be as well.

Holy crap...All this repetition in one post. It reads like a Donald Trump speech.

I'll break it down for you.
What you're going through right now with FFXIV is called burnout. And now you have a shiny new thing. That's fine and dandy.
Go enjoy that shiny new thing.
And I'm not even saying this in a "Go to your other game if you don't like it here" way. I mean that in a "I've been in your shoes before" way.

You'd be surprised how many threads we get over on the WoW forums, almost daily now, of people in your exact position only with the games reversed. "WoW is stale now. Here's why FFXIV is better" sums it up.
The grass always looks greener on the other side.
You'll eventually get into a loop where you keep ping ponging back and fourth between the two games.

Hell, I'm enjoying FFXIV more right now because I took a break from it for about four months, where as WoW I've been going at it hard since Demon Invasions went live and now I'm getting tired of it.
It's a viscous cycle. One that won't be fixed by you coming onto this or any other forum to complain about it.

But, for real though, world quests can go die.

[Melorie]

You'd be surprised how many threads we get over on the WoW forums, almost daily now, of people in your exact position only with the games reversed. "WoW is stale now. Here's why FFXIV is better" sums it up.

This.
I have friends that stopped FFXIV so they could play legion. On the other hand, I have friends that came from WoW to play FFXIV. There are also people from GW2, Black Desert, Tree of Savior, coming and going from FFXIV. I think that since WoW and FFXIV are kinda similar (both are sub-based mmos and so) we tend to hear more comparisons. FFXIV has a competition with all MMOs in the market. FFXIV is going to lose subs because of these MMOs but also gain subs from MMO players that are burnt from these games or don't like them (since MMO players usually play different mmos till they find one they like). Legion is not going to destroy FFXIV fanbase. Just as the next FFXIV expansion won't destroy WoW fanbase.


Now, talking about the OP point, honestly, I feel that this is the whole "oh! shiny" feeling.

[Annah]

This.
I have friends that stopped FFXIV so they could play legion. On the other hand, I have friends that came from WoW to play FFXIV. There are also people from GW2, Black Desert, Tree of Savior, coming and going from FFXIV. I think that since WoW and FFXIV are kinda similar (both are sub-based mmos and so) we tend to hear more comparisons. FFXIV has a competition with all MMOs in the market. FFXIV is going to lose subs because of these MMOs but also gain subs from MMO players that are burnt from these games or don't like them (since MMO players usually play different mmos till they find one they like). Legion is not going to destroy FFXIV fanbase. Just as the next FFXIV expansion won't destroy WoW fanbase.


Now, talking about the OP point, honestly, I feel that this is the whole "oh! shiny" feeling.

We've got folks in our FC that just left wow and went to FFXIV

As the world turns.

(bad show...good saying)

[Kosmos992k]

What you're going through right now with FFXIV is called burnout.

Indeed. Sadly many people do not realize the value of playing more than one game in any given week...and instead play one game until it becomes stale.

The grass always looks greener on the other side.

This one sentence should have ended the topic.

[Reynhart]

Because theres a ton of loot I never got that I want? Theres Transmogs (Glamour), achievements, personal achievements, mounts, legendary weapons.

Do you have every FATE achievements ? FATE minions ? Do you do old dungeons because they can have skins you love ? Do you do treasure hunts ? Do you do hunts ? Sightseeing logs ?

Like I said "Mom I'm bored" response "Go clean your room".

More like "Mom, I'm bored" response "Take this big Lego toy box and build something".

What you're saying basically is "There's no reason to roam around" and each time we give you something that actually asks you to roam around, you reply by "I find it boring".
It's like if you said, "There's only one job to play in this game...because I don't like everything but DRG"