FFXIV has some serious competition with WoW: Legion

[KeluBehemoth]

RIP Thread.

(Erased OP)

You people have turned this into a WoW VS FFXIV debate when my OP was about FFXIV's world feeling small and disconnected. Thus losing my sub to another game with a more open world. Thread title was click bait for dev review, nothing more.

Please lock/delete.

[KeluBehemoth]

Another thing.

The voice acting.

What the hell is with the VA in this game. Why is it so bad.

I have ranted before about hating the actors but this time I'm not ranting about that.

I'm talking about the actual recordings themselves! They're so god damn bland! There's NO ATMOSPHERE WHAT SO EVER TO THEM.

Like Ser Aymeric is talking to me in a GIANT STONE HALL and theres NO REVERB AT ALL? There's NO SPACIAL ATMOSPHERE in any of the voice recordings! It's straight up like someone just recorded into a mic and then threw it into the game.

Why is it that when I hear someone yell or cheer in a cutscene its just coming straight at me. Does this not bother anyone else?

Like come on SE. This game could be a lot better and frankly it HAS to get better.

[Astral145]

if wow would come to console i would love to play it.... ffxiv combat system is way to bland and way to simple.......

[Duelle]

if wow would come to console i would love to play it.... ffxiv combat system is way to bland and way to simple.......

Be careful of what you wish for. WoW has the buff-nerf rollercoaster and all the crap that hits people as a result. We have our discrepancies and issues here, but seeing entire specs under threat of being broken by changes is an entirely different matter.

The only thing I can give WoW is their quest design, which is still above FFXIV's. It's probably a result of all the systems built into their engine, but yeah you get temporary powers and vehicles and silly things that do add to the questing experience. When combined with the zone storylines, it all gives you a sense of agency.

For example, the "level up a minion" style quests would have been perfect for one of the moogle questlines in the Churning Mists (the one with the moogles you were helping train but ended up doing all the work for them).

[KeluBehemoth]

What is the addon for WoW you use to have cross hotbars? I'd love to try it out.

I'm using the Consoleport Addon with Bartender4. Theres a Youtube guide on how to set it up. You NEED Bartender to make it function just like the XIV bars but without it, the default UI and keybinds for Consoleport are fairly efficient.b

Consoleport uses WoWmapper a standalone software. Which makes the DS4 (Dualshock4) work natively with WoWmapper and Consoleport (No need for XB360 emulation)

[Martin_Arcainess]

Sadly that how XIV is, not that it's a bad thing of course it's more a matter of taste but in this day and age people want to get from Point A to point B in less then 1 min, not go from Point A, to point A2, then A3, then around C just to go to B.

Well see no one is forcing you to take the shortcuts, you are more then welcome to take the long way round, the shortcuts are optional.

the VA I really don't mind in this game. But what bothers you on about it? I know some people complained how the text in FFT was but that is howth doth thy talked in the days of old.

[KeluBehemoth]

Sadly that how XIV is, not that it's a bad thing of course it's more a matter of taste but in this day and age people want to get from Point A to point B in less then 1 min, not go from Point A, to point A2, then A3, then around C just to go to B.

Well see no one is forcing you to take the shortcuts, you are more then welcome to take the long way round, the shortcuts are optional.

the VA I really don't mind in this game. But what bothers you on about it? I know some people complained how the text in FFT was but that is howth doth thy talked in the days of old.

Porting from one point of the world and back and back and back in less than a minute is a bad thing. Sure I could fly through every zone, but why bother when I can just port there and I have ten million quest objectives sending me back and forth across the world.


Design quests that require less world travel, fewer filler quest stops (talk to person A at A and B at B back to A at A then to C at C). More local quests. Add incentive rewards to longer quests that require more travel.

And when there IS long distance travel involved... THEN use something like a "portal" or "Aetheryte" as a mid way gap closer.

You can pretty much take a portal in WoW to be within about 5-8 minutes of any location.

XIV puts you within about 2 minutes of every location in the game. I mean theres teleports in the cities to take you to fifteen other locations in the city for gods sake.

Ok I'm not talking 30 minute boat waits.

You can literally traverse the entire continent in WoW in fifteen minutes through flying. Theres really nothing that bad about that. Very rarely is it going to make you do that either.

Our biggest zone is Sea of Clouds and about %75 of it is just empty space.

I don't even see how anyone can argue that this isn't bad design.

As for the VA's as I stated, its that they have absolutely no spacial atmosphere to them. They literally sound just like someone talking into a telephone or something and I'm listening to it on my headset.

The voices have no effects. No reverb (Why does Ser Aymeric sound like hes in a sound proof room when hes sitting in his big stone hall?)

[Yasuhiro]

I know some people complained how the text in FFT was but that is howth doth thy talked in the days of old.

That's one of the reason I couldn't get into the story but then I switched the voices to Japanese and everything sounded fine. Really not the biggest fan of the localization of this game.

[Kaurie]

While I agree that Legion is amazing and 3.4 has been rather meh, I am not agreeing with the reasoning specifically. That said, overall I'd give Legion a solid 9/10. Whereas Heavensward I'd probably give a 7 and 3.4 I'd give a 4. That isn't exactly fair, though, as my grade for Heavensward is diminished by lacklustre patches since its release. We have yet to see how the Legion patches will turn out.