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    Aylis's Avatar
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    The only thing that gets me wondering and raises questions is just how flip-floppy he is in his statements. In this one he stated that the game needs to compete on a global scale. Which means retaining subs, bringing in new players and keeping players happy. In another statement he said he's totally okay with people playing for a month, dropping their sub and coming back on the next patch...if they come back. Soooo which is it? Does he want a stable game, or a revolving door game? He stated several times about people getting bored, which should be code for "Heyyy maybe its time to change things up a little" but he's not, its all more of the same. He said he's trying to appease everyone, which is pretty much impossible. You can't appease everyone and by trying you create something that has no real direction. I feel that he's only trying to appease the hardcore Final Fantasy fan's and those that play simply "because its Final Fantasy" in hopes they stay till the bitter end no matter what. Which makes sense given how much the game takes from other games in the series, and story aside does nothing really to contribute to the series.

    *Hey its Gold Saucer!!! Remember that from FF7?*
    *Hey its Triple Triad!! Remember that from FF8?"
    "Hey its magitek armor!!! Remember that from FF6?*
    *Hey its Crystal Tower!!! Remember that from FF3?*

    and so on and so on, story elements aside for the life of me I can't think of one memorable thing that that makes me say *Hey its XYZ!!! Remember that from FFXIV?*

    As for character growth there are ways to accomplish it in a pure vertical system, but it depends on what players want. Are they happy with the current system which risks boredom after the raids and dungeons are done as well as older content being rendered useless over time. Or do they want systems that have say evolving gear, ability to enchant gear to add +1 +2 +3 +4 and so on to the items bases. RNG and grind heavy yes but does ensure players stay busy and older content stays viable for longer then a one or two patch lifespan.
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    Last edited by Aylis; 09-25-2016 at 12:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    ....snips...
    a few example of element purely from FF14: Au ra, padjal, a good part of the beastman tribes (not all), ishgard (even if some can say that it look like jeuno from FF11 but it too different) a lot of the story and such....

    honestly it's because you focus too much on "ohhh this come from ff..." but from memories, every FF did take stuff from the previous one.... even FF15 that are not out yet are already filled with content coming from the previous one. what is important is not the place, but the story that involve the place....
    - crystal tower and the allagan stuff?
    - gold saucer and.... goldly godbert!
    - triple triad was seen not only in FF8 (even FF11 had it ^^)
    - magitek armor and the garlemand that can't use magic are are forced to use technology?
    yes they are coming from other game of the.....SERIES... but they are incorporate into the game. it's your loose if you can't read and discover a looot of stuff that FF14 did create and added to them game... like the spirit of gridania and such... you have memorable stuff... simply it ask to read and take time to understand how the world can create it own legacy.

    ps: by the way a lot of stuff in HW was rarely used like this in FF series
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    even FF15 that are not out yet are already filled with content coming from the previous one.
    the hype is soo real @_@

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    I feel that he's only trying to appease the hardcore Final Fantasy fan's and those that play simply "because its Final Fantasy" in hopes they stay till the bitter end no matter what.
    But, aren't "hardcore FF fans" the kind of players who discorevered the series very young ? Those that started at VII or sooner ? Those that belong in an older era, where dedication is not an unreal expectation for an MMO design ?

    Suddenly, the target audience makes even less sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    snip
    There's nothing wrong with what they're doing and trying to appeal to Final Fantasy fans (Because this is the XIVth mainline entry of the series)
    I'm one of those people that just plays for the fan service and seeing how they re-imagine classic Final Fantasy themes/bosses and enemies and make them work in the world of Eorzea and they do a really good job at it while also being true to the source material.

    I'm actually perfectly fine with Yoshida appealing to fans of the series who have stuck around with it and will continue to do so rather than appealing to the WoWfugee that plays for curiosity for a few days because their friends told them it's just like WoW without mentioning it's just like WoW only in gameplay only for them to come to the official forum complain about stuff like story which has been a staple arguably from the second game or stuff they don't get and feel left out on like various references. Heck, I'm still upset Koji-fox pandered to these type of people by changing the spell names to the outdated number system from the NES/SNES games (which mind you were only numbered because of character limitations and 7 only had them because of poor translation)

    But I digress, I'm fine with this game having it's own niche of players rather than trying to appeal to everyone and in the end appeal to no one.

    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    This poor excuse of a response is getting so old now.
    You can make a drinking game out of it
    RIP liver
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    Last edited by Yasuhiro; 09-26-2016 at 02:39 PM.
    Final Fantasy XIV forums in a nutshell
    Quote Originally Posted by Saccharin View Post
    I stopped reading here. I really did. Can people stop asking for FF14 to be FF11 reborn. They tried that and look what happened.