Yoshi-P on Character Growth

[Khemorex]

Well yes and No. I would like to see a different respons from you this time if you dont mind. I Came back recently as I mentioned. Is it really okay New or old People coming back, should wait for a New patch to Come, Just so que or the game feels more Alive? I wanna see your opinion here.. Dont tell me to wait for patch. I would like another respons now.

its hard to reply on ur question . i would need to know if ur queued as a DD or tank ? or was it after midnight? or during the afternoon?

after midnight it will always take longer , also there will be always more DD's then tanks. IT was the same with 2.0

i can only speak from my own experience i had in game so far , the only times it took really long for a dungeon to pop was when i lvled a DD class after midnight :P

[HungryHippo]

its hard to reply on ur question . i would need to know if ur queued as a DD or tank ? or was it after midnight? or during the afternoon?

after midnight it will always take longer , also there will be always more DD's then tanks. IT was the same with 2.0

i can only speak from my own experience i had in game so far , the only times it took really long for a dungeon to pop was when i lvled a DD class after midnight :P

Im warrior 50 close to 51. It was at first 4pm UK time then 7pm UK time.

[SendohJin]

The answer you've experienced yourself. It really isn't fine for any returning or new players if they chance upon the game during these sleeper months. Especially if their server is one of the more quieter ones. But this is how the game's content has been designed. And you see first hand the attitudes received for the people who want change.

Do you have the magic answer? To provide non-repeatable content that will keep all the servers hopping every month non-stop with no sleeper months without massively increasing development cost? Is there a game that actually does this?

[HungryHippo]

The responses you\\'ve gotten thus far: "Just find a new FC/LS." "Just be patient." They don\\'t actually have resolutions to the issue

Thank you for the respons..People been Nice but however there must be a fix to it, or like you Said, its fine for them because they arent in my situation. Is this how it should be? Should i feel overhelmed by this? I love ff games and this one too. But im still looking for a respons.

[Khemorex]

Thank you for the respons..People been Nice but however there must be a fix to it, or like you Said, its fine for them because they arent in my situation. Is this how it should be? Should i feel overhelmed by this? I love ff games and this one too. But im still looking for a respons.

i dont know , maybe u just had an unlucky moment. sometimes it just takes longer ^^

and ive just tryed to sign up to snowcloak as tank lvl54 drk , had an instant dungeon pop :P

and moogle and cerberus are on the same data center :P

[HungryHippo]

Whats up with the Phone on this Page?! I was saying. Thank you for respons, but do people need to know before they buy the game that they need to wait for a patch to do stuff? I talk about People being on so i can progress story. Does it need to feel like i play a offline game for hours and there is a glitch that doesnt allow me to progress?

[SendohJin]

Whats up with the Phone on this Page?! I was saying. Thank you for respons, but do people need to know before they buy the game that they need to wait for a patch to do stuff? I talk about People being on so i can progress story. Does it need to feel like i play a offline game for hours and there is a glitch that doesnt allow me to progress?

No, they don't but it's an MMO. People need to learn to be a little more patient. It's a marathon not a sprint. You can't complain about every queue that doesn't pop, get 3-7 other friends to play if you need to be able to do things all the time every time on your schedule.

[SessionZero]

World of Warcraft makes several changes over the course of it's lifetime, players complain and reminisce with nostalgia glasses and make private servers to relive the "glory days."

FFXIV announces that it'll more or less stay the course with minor adjustments to it's formula, players complain that it's stagnant and boring and needs major overhauls in order to retain subscription numbers.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Khemorex]

No, they don't but it's an MMO. People need to learn to be a little more patient. It's a marathon not a sprint. You can't complain about every queue that doesn't pop, get 3-7 other friends to play if you need to be able to do things all the time every time on your schedule.

what he sayed , that is just the nature of the game sometime u wait 1 sec sometimes u wait 10-30 min , i just did sastasha as dps had to wait 12 min @ 10pm CET

had 2 new people in it to

while u can progress normaly with the main scenario (via rouletes and relic weapon :P),
the only thing where u might not find a group (in a normal mmo time) via duty finder is coil , because its not a main scenario quest,and the gear is outdated anyway.

[Welsper59]

This is quite depressing news. Maybe its time to reevaluate if "modern" MMOs in this day and age are really what I'm looking for or at very least readjust my expectations of where this game is going.

Now you're getting it! lol

It's next to impossible to be a "successful" MMORPG these days by designing things identical to the struggles of the past. People want the community we had back in the early XI and vanilla WoW era, but they can't comprehend sitting in a queue that's longer than 10min. They want their content difficult, but will complain the very moment someone new joins or messes up. They want rewards to be meaningful, but expect to be assured its acquisition within a week or two at most. They want to play an MMORPG, but don't want even a remote hint of RNG or "grind" aspects involved (goes side by side with the meaningful rewards comment). This is the majority, where even a good number of people who post here are guilty of comments that prove this mentality is ever present.

That first comment about community is where a majority of players will not fully understand. One would (probably) had to have actually experienced and reflected on the matter to get why negative points actually helped create the positive nostalgia people have. Our encountering people today in dungeons/raids, for example, is mostly a shadow of its former self. You're simply meeting people that you'll likely never see again. You got your positive/negative experience, but that's the extent of it. If you do pre-mades or run stuff with friends, then you're getting that old school experience, but I'd say nearly all of us don't use that as our primary means of experiencing the game.

How often has it happened for someone to have done a DF solo queue, then wound up befriending someone to the point that you get invited by them to do stuff? I think it's safe to say (almost) never, simply because of our need to have a cross-realm/server function. You'll meet some cool people, but the moment you all leave the instance, is the moment your connection has essentially been cut. It's a good and somewhat mandatory thing we have it, but it came at the cost of losing a significant part of that former social perspective. Some people still get that, which is great, but most of us won't "just because."

I'd even go so far as to argue that the regulars on the forums have a greater lasting social connection (good or bad) than most of the DF people we'd encounter lol.

But not as many as you'd think if the game still had a weird cartoony art style and grindy old-school mechanics, because today's core MMO demographic doesn't want that... and, to them, Final Fantasy isn't a sacred cow.

Wildstar failed because most MMORPG players don't want to return to that kind of gameplay.

I disagree on the graphical appearance bit to a small degree, as while there are a large number graphically shallow players, it's not too big of a deal as to whether or not they'd stick around for at least a little while. They'd complain or count on it as a negative, but when have we never complained about things lol.

I do absolutely agree however about most people not wanting to return to the old format of gameplay. Some very much so are willing to, but most can't/don't share such views. As an old time player still playing MMORPGs today, unless I had a static already formed for most/all group content, there's no way I'd stick around for the old format beyond a short period of time or for the nostalgia of it. XI's current form is about as close as I'm willing to get to experiencing old games solo... but that's not saying much as an MMORPG. It's more like I'm playing XI as the single player game many of us wish there could have been (optionally).