We love Yoshi

[WinterLuna]

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

Sometimes people are just ranting or stating their opinion though. There's just a lot of double standards and hypocrisy, as I said before, it's fine to support a positive thread but you can't complain about the negative ones when they're more constructive than this.

EXACTLY. This right here.

Again, my problem is with those who have so much against the negative threads when they're more constructive than this one.

[Snugglebutt]

Sometimes people are just ranting or stating their opinion though. There's just a lot of double standards and hypocrisy, as I said before, it's fine to support a positive thread but you can't complain about the negative ones when they're more constructive than this.

Those with such criticism however should not be immune to having their points of contention critiqued.

Not all criticism directed at SE is constructive or even valid regardless of how many paragraphs it takes up under the guise of 'detail' or 'explanation'. I see nothing wrong with calling people out in the negative ones in regards to specific aspects of their complaints. The only criticisms of this one people have come up with is in regards to how meaningful or worthwhile it is but I already responded to those criticisms earlier in the thread as you are aware given you responded to that very post.

[Jynx]

Those with such criticism however should not be immune to having their points of contention critiqued.

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

[CelestePinke]

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

Please read my above post that I was editing as you posted that.

[Jynx]

Please read my above post that I was editing as you posted that.

That's great and all you should probably put that in your OP.

Otherwise couldn't I make a thread stating I like pants and it be just as insightful?

[CelestePinke]

That's great and all you should probably put that in your OP.

Otherwise couldn't I make a thread stating I like pants and it be just as insightful?

I just did.

[Hyrist]

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

Not when the statement is intended as a show of support and solidarity. The truth of the matter is criticism here both relies upon and gives way to hyperbole far too often. And in contrast a simple, clear and broad message of support is often needed as a palate cleanser to that level of what honestly seems to be blanketed and misguided venting.

But more important than the posts themselves form individualists that feel need the desire to post, (and post repeatedly) is the votes behind them. In both threads, Yoshi-p's support is higher by quite a bit and voices of reasons are being uplifted - showing where the real feelings regarding both the hyperbolic criticism and the generalized support is.

Until the discussion of such things can be done without click-bait level titles, blatant trolling and nonconstructive criticism - such positive counter-threads are needed to serve as islands in the sea of individualists acting like a puffer fish to make their problems seem larger than they actually are.

If it wasn't against the ToS, I'd wager a list of common detractors would begin to highlight just how much this board is lead around the nose by a (very) vocal few, rather than representative of the larger base.

[Jynx]

Not when the statement is intended as a show of support and solidarity. The truth of the matter is criticism here both relies upon and gives way to hyperbole far too often.

I really feel that if anything your the one being a bit hyperbolic looking at the front page out of what like 30 possible threads on the front page I see like...5? that I could point out as having blatantly negative clickbaity titles.

The rest of them are fairly positive discussion about showing off your characters or feedback that isn't toxic about game systems. I personally feel there are a very vocal few who get a bit too tightly wound when people come off as negative about the game. I get it they are invested but if they want to take part in proper discussion they need to be as level headed as they expect the opposition to be. I find both sides to (Like everything) have people who are a bit too extreme on each end of the spectrum but that's just human nature and complaining about it is pointless.

[Hyrist]

I really feel that if anything your the one being a bit hyperbolic looking at the front page out of what like 30 possible threads on the front page I see like...5? that I could point out as having blatantly negative clickbaity titles.

The rest of them are fairly positive discussion about showing off your characters or feedback that isn't toxic about game systems. I personally feel there are a very vocal few who get a bit too tightly wound when people come off as negative about the game. I get it they are invested but if they want to take part in proper discussion they need to be as level headed as they expect the opposition to be. I find both sides to (Like everything) have people who are a bit too extreme on each end of the spectrum but that's just human nature and complaining about it is pointless.

... I think you don't understand that idea of Hyperbole.

"Far too often" is a factor indicating opinion, not listing as a fact, not engaging in hyperbole.(By contrast, an example of Hyperbole would be: "Every thread on these boards is hyperbolic!") Even five out of thirty is a fairly high percentage of hyperbole. That's two short of a flat 20%. (It's %16.6r). And while, yes, while both sides are vulnerable, I would wager that if you were to compare the two, you know which would be more guilty of such a thing. In my experience such 'positive' hyperbolic threads tend to be reactionary to to the negative ones.

Now, keep in context, not long ago I expressed my woes about the state of video game forums in general, in particularly these 'official' forums which seem to hold the highest vitriol, often under the guise of 'feedback'. By my experience I've found that more heavily moderated forums are far more effective in both terms of feedback and terms of an overall positive environment than light or quiet moderation. (However, I'm not sitting on the metric numbers.)

But no, a statement of opinion isn't hyperbole, it can CONTAIN hyperbole - but the listed accusation of such falls short of the mark. Five out of Thirty meets my opinion of, 'far too much' especially when were're just considering thread titles and not posts within them as well. You're free to disagree, but you're not going to make any headway with me as far as convincing me otherwise. The way the vocal players act upon boards such as these has a direct and profound negative impact on my enjoyment on the game as such I am far more critical of them than those who dismiss such things as noise.