We love Yoshi

[Gallus]

Sorry but just saying "We love Yoshi-p" is useless and shouldn't need a topic for it.

Measuring the utility of the threads now? Going by that you'd delete 90% of the stuff that is written in here. Posting in a useless topic to say it's useless is probably even more useless.

If perhaps they made it into a topic talking about the positives and why they like Yoshi-p and what he did for the game it would be a different story but its not.

Would that make this thread any more useful? I think it's a pretty well known thing in which state this game was in 1.0 and what Yoshi did (on the big screen at least, we do not know the details).

It's just a thread created to counter another thread which didn't need to be made in the first place at least that other topic has reasons for why they think that and you can be against it but the OP of the other thread put that their opinion of why they believe perhaps he should step down. I'm not being a hater or anything for those that do like Yoshi-p but there is a difference between positive feedback

Reasons? I'll tell you what's the reason behind most people screaming "lack of content" and "game just became stale and boring", nothing's fun forever, these people should take a break from FFXIV, they blame it on the game but it's just something natural to happen. Regarding bots (the other big complaint from the person you claim gave at least "reasons"), I very much doubt this issue is entirely in Yoshida's hands, if there was another director in charge, you'd probably see the same thing. Still, I can't understand how bots can be a deal breaker for some people to the point they'd ask for a video game producer and director to step down xd.

[CelestePinke]

It is not useless to show my appreciation, if you can't understand that simply wanting to show in the sea of negativity,that is your problem not mine, but thanks for reading and wanting to put yet more negativity out there. Have a great day.

[WinterLuna]

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It's more of the fact everyone is defending this thread in relation to it being a statement and that's it, but if the same thread was made negatively, everyone would be demanding reasons why and commenting about how it's not constructive.

Double standards is all.

[Snugglebutt]

It's more of the fact everyone is defending this thread in relation to it being a statement and that's it, but if the same thread was made negatively, everyone would be demanding reasons why and commenting about how it's not constructive.

Double standards is all.

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

[mandodo69]

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

EXACTLY. This right here.

[WinterLuna]

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

Sometimes people are just ranting or stating their opinion though. There's just a lot of double standards and hypocrisy, as I said before, it's fine to support a positive thread but you can't complain about the negative ones when they're more constructive than this.

EXACTLY. This right here.

Again, my problem is with those who have so much against the negative threads when they're more constructive than this one.

[Snugglebutt]

Sometimes people are just ranting or stating their opinion though. There's just a lot of double standards and hypocrisy, as I said before, it's fine to support a positive thread but you can't complain about the negative ones when they're more constructive than this.

Those with such criticism however should not be immune to having their points of contention critiqued.

Not all criticism directed at SE is constructive or even valid regardless of how many paragraphs it takes up under the guise of 'detail' or 'explanation'. I see nothing wrong with calling people out in the negative ones in regards to specific aspects of their complaints. The only criticisms of this one people have come up with is in regards to how meaningful or worthwhile it is but I already responded to those criticisms earlier in the thread as you are aware given you responded to that very post.

[Jynx]

Those with such criticism however should not be immune to having their points of contention critiqued.

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

[CelestePinke]

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

Please read my above post that I was editing as you posted that.

[Hyrist]

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

Not when the statement is intended as a show of support and solidarity. The truth of the matter is criticism here both relies upon and gives way to hyperbole far too often. And in contrast a simple, clear and broad message of support is often needed as a palate cleanser to that level of what honestly seems to be blanketed and misguided venting.

But more important than the posts themselves form individualists that feel need the desire to post, (and post repeatedly) is the votes behind them. In both threads, Yoshi-p's support is higher by quite a bit and voices of reasons are being uplifted - showing where the real feelings regarding both the hyperbolic criticism and the generalized support is.

Until the discussion of such things can be done without click-bait level titles, blatant trolling and nonconstructive criticism - such positive counter-threads are needed to serve as islands in the sea of individualists acting like a puffer fish to make their problems seem larger than they actually are.

If it wasn't against the ToS, I'd wager a list of common detractors would begin to highlight just how much this board is lead around the nose by a (very) vocal few, rather than representative of the larger base.