We love Yoshi

[Snugglebutt]

It's more of the fact everyone is defending this thread in relation to it being a statement and that's it, but if the same thread was made negatively, everyone would be demanding reasons why and commenting about how it's not constructive.

Double standards is all.

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

[mandodo69]

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

EXACTLY. This right here.

[WinterLuna]

It's not really a double standard, a complaint requires an explanation because your hoping they resolve it. When your merely expressing a like for something and not complaining there is no need for a detailed run down as to why because your not asking them to change it. You can explain why if wanted but it is not necessary unlike when you make a complaint. One is asking for action on SE's part the other is not.

Sometimes people are just ranting or stating their opinion though. There's just a lot of double standards and hypocrisy, as I said before, it's fine to support a positive thread but you can't complain about the negative ones when they're more constructive than this.

EXACTLY. This right here.

Again, my problem is with those who have so much against the negative threads when they're more constructive than this one.

[Snugglebutt]

Sometimes people are just ranting or stating their opinion though. There's just a lot of double standards and hypocrisy, as I said before, it's fine to support a positive thread but you can't complain about the negative ones when they're more constructive than this.

Those with such criticism however should not be immune to having their points of contention critiqued.

Not all criticism directed at SE is constructive or even valid regardless of how many paragraphs it takes up under the guise of 'detail' or 'explanation'. I see nothing wrong with calling people out in the negative ones in regards to specific aspects of their complaints. The only criticisms of this one people have come up with is in regards to how meaningful or worthwhile it is but I already responded to those criticisms earlier in the thread as you are aware given you responded to that very post.

[CelestePinke]

If I were the staff that had to look at these forums, I'd be tired of the negativity that is out here in the forums. I looked up the definition of the word discussion. Some included comments and some did not as part of what makes a discussion, so for the sake of argument, I acknowledge there are different definitions and I won't just throw a definition in here that would be in my favor.

And we still love Yoshi P.

I could have titled the thread We love Yoshi P and his team, but would it have mattered?

Some feel I need to give reasons for my thread:

I left a game to come and play this one. The game I left, the producer and staff didn't care about the game or its players. I came here in March of 2014. I watched the live letters (even the ones that were on broadcast in Japanese. I was so delighted to see a staff that got excited and were clearly eager to make this game great. (Other game staff was rude to their players and sometimes fixed stuff that was broke and I paid a sub for that one.) Yes, I get bored grinding away and I play this game on average of 16 hours per day and I only play this. Knowing this game has long term playability. I make it interesting. I make new characters, I queue undersized by myself on any dungeons I can just to see how long I can survive, I craft and gather. I RP with a friend. I hadn't PvPed til recently. I get on a mount and turn my HUD off and tour the realm. Doing these things, is enough for me to say I love Yoshi and the staff.

[Jynx]

Those with such criticism however should not be immune to having their points of contention critiqued.

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

[CelestePinke]

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

Please read my above post that I was editing as you posted that.

[Jynx]

Please read my above post that I was editing as you posted that.

That's great and all you should probably put that in your OP.

Otherwise couldn't I make a thread stating I like pants and it be just as insightful?

[Hyrist]

Should it not be the same the other way around as well though?

I know when I post a positive thread I still don't just flop out a statement and leave it at that because then it's pointless to even be a thing.

Not when the statement is intended as a show of support and solidarity. The truth of the matter is criticism here both relies upon and gives way to hyperbole far too often. And in contrast a simple, clear and broad message of support is often needed as a palate cleanser to that level of what honestly seems to be blanketed and misguided venting.

But more important than the posts themselves form individualists that feel need the desire to post, (and post repeatedly) is the votes behind them. In both threads, Yoshi-p's support is higher by quite a bit and voices of reasons are being uplifted - showing where the real feelings regarding both the hyperbolic criticism and the generalized support is.

Until the discussion of such things can be done without click-bait level titles, blatant trolling and nonconstructive criticism - such positive counter-threads are needed to serve as islands in the sea of individualists acting like a puffer fish to make their problems seem larger than they actually are.

If it wasn't against the ToS, I'd wager a list of common detractors would begin to highlight just how much this board is lead around the nose by a (very) vocal few, rather than representative of the larger base.

[CelestePinke]

That's great and all you should probably put that in your OP.

Otherwise couldn't I make a thread stating I like pants and it be just as insightful?

I just did.