Fat Moogle Mount on Mogstation!

[Alleo]

I can understand, if you love everything about the game that you find it annoying to read so many complaints. But not everyone is the same and some like these things and some don't. I kinda wonder how some people will feel, when they will have something that disappoints them (not necessary restricted to this game) and want to voice it and they get a "ugh cant you just go away you complainer". Probably hate it right? ^^

This is a forum and as a paying customer everyone has the right to complain or say thank you as long as its civil. You can be on their side or against it and its completely alright if you buy it (heck I also bought Sleipnir in the winter sale) but its sadden me that people are attacking others (be it from pro or contra) and that there will always be someone that goes into a thread that is about something negative to complain about the topic..or even make these complain threads about complainers..(I mean I am quite sure that most if not all of us has complained about something in our life.) There are some "complain" topics that I roll my eyes at but if they don't have any interesting to discuss, I will just ignore it and go on with my life, yet there will be enough people attacking the OP of that topic and with that letting it staying even longer on the front page..why cant people not just ignore topics that they don't even care about or may have nothing really to say to it? :/

So more on topic:
Would I complain about the red fenrir being in the CS? (Owning the gold saucer one) No, because its just a recolor of the existing mount and even though its kinda telling that they make it easier and easier to get such things, it still would be okay with me because people could still farm it ingame. The same with all the other mounts that are just recolors.

And I am not sure if its good that FF14 already has 5 mounts in its cash shop while WoW has 10 while existing for way longer than 14...I kinda wanna know right now how much mounts we will have after 10 years.

To make it more interesting there was a interview with Yoshida (which was also discussed in the forum) where he talked about a level jump potion and said that its something that they saw in WoW. One of the options was, to put it into the Cash shop but they still wanted to gather the opinions of the players and that they are not sure if they will do it or not..So I fear that it will really go more and more away from the cosmetics only and I am kinda interested when there will be the point where some of those that defend it now will also start complaining. Hopefully they are ready for those posts that will tell them to stop doing so because its silly or something.

(This forum is really tame to some of the things I read in forums from games like Black desert...they don't have to pay a sub and yet still find the 35€ outfits. that come with a weapon and that you can also just buy parts of it, to be way to expensive..)

[Nuna]

Thank you for the info Nuna

You're welcome! Tbh I'm happy to know that quite a bit of them hate fates too. So maybe in the future SE will make them more interesting.
On topic, I understand a lot of you are wary about cash shop exclusives. And given the track record of other games, I don't blame you. But have more faith in SE. Mounts obtainable in game far outweigh cs mounts. They're probably making bank from the cs and wanted to reward purchasers with an exclusive.

[Alleo]

But have more faith in SE. Mounts obtainable in game far outweigh cs mounts. They're probably making bank from the cs and wanted to reward purchasers with an exclusive.

I really want to have faith in SE I really do and I also want to love this game. But after what happened with housing, EU campaign and other things its just getting harder and harder to do so. And from the five mounts we already have two that are completely unique so nearly half of them. (It would be half if we count the wedding mount that you only get by buying the package from the CS) Thats not a rate that makes me comfortable.

I know that the CS will stay and they wont sadly change events back to the beginning where you got the old items on top of the new ones but please SE keep it that way and only put recolors and event items in it. You can earn more money and people have the chance to earn them ingame or buy them..win win for everyone.

[Skivvy]

Edit :: I've reached my daily!! So my last post today will be below. I hope Skivvy sees this! (I really wanted to answer it :< )

I've played all types of MMO's. P2P, B2P, F2P, P2W, Private Servers, with and without cash shops, etc. With FFXIV I have no problem with Mogstation as long as it stays vanity/non Pay to Win. Time's change and I've accepted that. I have a line I hope SE does not cross, and from what we've seen, they're still pretty far away from it.

Playing some catch up here, sorry for not acknowledging earlier. D:

One thing that makes me almost OK with the cash shop is the fact that SE as a company had not been doing well financially in recent years. XIV ARR has been great for them, but just because you finally get one financial success does not mean that the company as a whole is completely in the clear (although last I read they're doing OK now). A business has to make money, I totally get that and am 100% OK with it.

As I've mentioned a couple of times, my first MMO experience was XI which did not have a cash shop, and I guess that's just how I expected things to be. Not related to XIV, I also loathe DLC in other games as well. I've been a huge Sims fan and have played it since the very beginning with their first release. Now all the later versions have a massive cash shop to buy extra content, and I hate it! It feels like they purposefully withheld content so that they could make you buy it back at a later date. Slightly different as Sims is not a sub game, and they've always sold "items packs", so I hope no one claims this to be some solid argument. :P I know how these forums work!

As someone mentioned a bit earlier, SE is actually toying with the idea of a leveling potion. At what point do they draw the line? We all have our threshold for what we feel is acceptable, and maybe some of the pro-cash shop people will switch sides at that point. Hopefully it won't cross that line at all, but we'll see. XIV is designed to be casual, and those types of items do fit in with that model.
http://gamerescape.com/2016/06/17/e3...naoki-yoshida/

[Kietsu]

To paraphrase a YouTube comment I read yesterday:

I'm really glad the mount isn't gated behind something stupid like running fun content.

[Nuna]

I really want to have faith in SE I really do and I also want to love this game. But after what happened with housing

Excuse me, but what happened with housing?

[Skivvy]

Excuse me, but what happened with housing?

SE's inability to make it available to all players. Allowing a single player (and alts) to purchase multiple properties to either horde or resell for far more gil. As a Balmung player, putting us in some insanely high pricing bracket (lawl). I'm sure there are other things as well that others can think of. I personally don't care much for housing, so I haven't followed those threads much.

[Celef]

SE's inability to make it available to all players. Allowing a single player (and alts) to purchase multiple properties to either horde or resell for far more gil. As a Balmung player, putting us in some insanely high pricing bracket (lawl). I'm sure there are other things as well that others can think of. I personally don't care much for housing, so I haven't followed those threads much.

And the addition of exclusive items in CS like the giant mog plushe

[Nuna]

SE's inability to make it available to all players. Allowing a single player (and alts) to purchase multiple properties to either horde or resell for far more gil. As a Balmung player, putting us in some insanely high pricing bracket (lawl). I'm sure there are other things as well that others can think of. I personally don't care much for housing, so I haven't followed those threads much.

Ah..I was thinking if I saved up enough I can just get a house. But now that I know there's almost no chance of getting my own place I'm sad. Guess I'm stuck with a fc room.

[Skivvy]

Ah..I was thinking if I saved up enough I can just get a house. But now that I know there's almost no chance of getting my own place I'm sad. Guess I'm stuck with a fc room.

Well, keep saving if it's important They do on occasion release new wards, and there is supposed to be some new "apartment" type housing coming out soon.