Healer DPS metagame for non savage content is getting old

[ErryK]

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And you've been ignoring my question of why is this such a bother to you? Are you running a market on accuracy materia and can't meet demand?

[Ilan]

You know what would be great ? SE implement some tools that MEASURE how a DPS use his DPS rotations. He would have a color on his TP bar. Blue = awesome / green = somewhat decent / purple = go back on the dummy.

Another thing i wish would be SE giving just 1 elite endgame content with ALL members to be gear capped. 100% skills and 0% stats. You acheive in there, it REALLY means you know your job. Imagine entering such instance, all members have same level of wep, same level of everything.

now why people would want to go in there : ok after completion of the last fight of the serie.. you could gain best wep in game. That, right there, and only for that reason alone, people would want to go there.

100% skills / 0% gear

I'll make a new post about that lol

Its called RAID, and i don't mean crap like wiping city. Because in there almost the whole Party has the same ilvl +-5.

I don't even understand why some people get annoyed because healers meld acc in their gear, the game allowes it and its nice to have a dpsing SCH in savage. If you don't like the way SE handles things, then go and play it your way or stop playing it at all. Stop trying to force SE to adjust the whole game to you, adjust to the game...

[Alistaire]

And you've been ignoring my question of why is this such a bother to you? Are you running a market on accuracy materia and can't meet demand?

They've been ignoring a lot more than that. To the point where it's not worth replying anymore.

[ErryK]

They've been ignoring a lot more than that. To the point where it's not worth replying anymore.

Yeah... I'm starting to see why you stopped bothering. :/

[randysquirrel]

I have to agree with OP. It used to be, you learned a fight, knowing when you had a window to use cleric, throw out a bit of dps, then back to heal. Now you learn fights to know when to drop cleric, throw out one essential dignity, then back into cleric

I'll meld because it's the only thing feasibly worth melding. I don't need my heals to hit harder, pre-casting means SS doesn't bring much, and MP is not difficult to manage. There is so much time to dps, I may as well make sure my casts actually hit

To those saying they refuse to dps as heals. I understand you don't feel you should have to, but given there is no need to spam heal, I genuinely don't know what you're doing half the run, just standing there doing nothing or healing people who don't need healing

[Sareal]

To those saying they refuse to dps as heals. I understand you don't feel you should have to, but given there is no need to spam heal, I genuinely don't know what you're doing half the run, just standing there doing nothing or healing people who don't need healing

I don't feel like I have to, but I just get bored otherwise. It didn't occur to me that I should DPS as a healer, until one day I just thought "What can I do to be more useful?" Without necessarily saying healers aren't being useful if they don't DPS, I'm just saying there are times you aren't going to be doing anything, and those times are usually better spent doing something like DPSing.

[randysquirrel]

I don't feel like I have to, but I just get bored otherwise. It didn't occur to me that I should DPS as a healer, until one day I just thought "What can I do to be more useful?" Without necessarily saying healers aren't being useful if they don't DPS, I'm just saying there are times you aren't going to be doing anything, and those times are usually better spent doing something like DPSing.

I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with me or not lol...
but what you said is exactly how I feel as well.

I either dps, or I stand there doing nothing, so may as well. A few gravity's into a trash pack might not be ground-breaking dps, but it still makes it a bit quicker, and is certainly less boring than standing with my thumb up my butt lol

[Rawrz]

...is certainly less boring than standing with my thumb up my butt lol

[fm_fenrir]

SE, to their credit, at least picked up on how very bad it was that a class dedicated to surviving damage was prioritizing their DPS above their durability; and we got the changes to Vit for tanks. Healers need the same treatment.

Healers should take a 30% HPS/DPS cut and have their stats "rebalanced"? That's literally what SE did to tanks to "stop" the tank DPS meta, and it didn't really even do that (because you still need tank DPS, it's just worse now).

[Destous]

And you've been ignoring my question of why is this such a bother to you? Are you running a market on accuracy materia and can't meet demand?

Dial down the angst a bit. It's not a bother to me. The point was to discuss the stat weights of healers and that they've shifted to far towards a DPS focus. My argument of healers focusing on accuracy, a purely offensive stat, for savage content is a good reason to suggest the stat weights are changed to reflect the purpose of the role.

No one is saying healers shouldn't do DPS.
No one is saying healers shouldn't currently meld accuracy.
No one is saying any healer reading this thread should go out and pull all the accuracy out of the materia sockets just to make a statement.

The point is discussing the stat weights of healers; and if you chime in with irrelevant jabs like "why is it such a bother to you" then yes, I'm going to ignore it.

Healers should take a 30% HPS/DPS cut and have their stats "rebalanced"? That's literally what SE did to tanks to "stop" the tank DPS meta, and it didn't really even do that (because you still need tank DPS, it's just worse now).

The hitcap should be baked into Cleric Stance, and healers shouldn't fumble around with accuracy.