I guess it's time

[RobbieH]

So, how about you take your own advice, stop telling those of us who enjoy the game as is, how it should be 'better' just because you don't care to do anything but the one or two things that interest you.

What the f, where did i tell anyone how to enjoy the game?

Here's some business education for you: Raiders = maybe 10% of the population, if they leave.. that's just 10%. Casuals = about 90%. Who do you focus most of your business model towards? Basic math there.

Even if it was 5% it's still a loss, basic math you say.

There will always be raiders, they come and go. It's those that log in for only a couple of hours a day, who's always got an active subscription that keep the lights on.

So, do we change things just for a tiny vocal minority who is only going to leave anyway? Doubt it.

Oh that logic, yeah EA Games had that too, "we don't care about individuals", on same year they ended up with financial losses and where considered the worst company in America, lmao.

You know what it's fun? Is that this thread is for people who are not happy about something, if you are happy with what you have why come here?

stop telling those of us who enjoy the game

Again again:

stop telling those of us who enjoy the game

Also, the casual audience seems happy, good for them, some other audiences are not, it's not like SE will stop doing casual stuff just because 10% as you say aren't happy, they will keep releasing content for those 10%, it's just that they aren't doing it right.

Do you understand yet?

Raiders can leave but they have nowhere to go. What other game offers competitive raiding the way XIV does? Your logic is flawed regardless.

Where did i mention there's a better place to go? Hell i said i don't want to leave this game, lmao you people only bother to read last comments then it's this.

Everyone knows hardcore raiders are a minority when it comes to playerbase activity. That's why games like WoW made "endgame" more accessible. It's nice that they cater to endgame raiding as much as they do. If they wanted the most subs they wouldn't focus on hardcore endgame.

"Minority", yeah tell that to Aion and TERA when they were paid and they laughed at me and threw comments like you with "flawed logic" when i told on the forums where the game was going, fortunately i don't see this game going F2P, but i do see it not being in good shoes either.

[Dorander]

What the f, where did i tell anyone how to enjoy the game?


Even if it was 5% it's still a loss, basic math you say.


Oh that logic, yeah EA Games had that too, "we don't care about individuals", on same year they ended up with financial losses and where considered the worst company in America, lmao.

You know what it's fun? Is that this thread is for people who are not happy about something, if you are happy with what you have why come here?



Again again:





Also, the casual audience seems happy, good for them, some other audiences are not, it's not like SE will stop doing casual stuff just because 10% as you say aren't happy, they will keep releasing content for those 10%, it's just that they aren't doing it right.

Do you understand yet?

At this point it's like trying to hold a conversation with a petulant child. Please, continue to have your fit. I refuse to acknowledge you anymore.

[Anienai]

At this point it's like trying to hold a conversation with a petulant child. Please, continue to have your fit. I refuse to acknowledge you anymore.

You have awesome glamour.

[HeavenlyArmed]

This game launched in 2010, six years ago. Six years into FFXI, there were more than 15 different endgame events, while keeping the same level cap of 75, so your gear drops actually mattered. FFXIV has one relevant raid. The current formula continues to phase out old content, while only adding a small amount at a time.

I joined this game 2 months before HW released. I told myself years ago that I wouldn't play this game, based on some of the reviews from my friends who left XI to join the beta. I figured 5 years into this game, there has to be tons of fun endgame content. I was wrong, I left after a few months of playing. Just recently returned about a month and a half ago. I enjoy playing, leveling more jobs, crafting and gathering, etc. But I can see why people want more depth.

I would rather have 15 different events than 1 raid. Wouldn't you?

1.0-1.23 and 2.0+ are not the same game. Acting like they are only weakens your argument.

[Dorander]

You have awesome glamour.

Thank you. I don't care for the look of the torrent set. So I figured I'd just keep going forward with the esoteric set look.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

I've been busy with my job so I have not been able to play the game as much. I tend to complete certain aspects of the game. Relic/Anima does not interest me at all. Sure they look cool, but I know that I would be burned out by grinding content (I like the gear designs, both armor and weapons). I like to have fun by completing my crafting logs, leve logs, etc. as well as trying to finish quests/scenarios at least once so I can see the story and just complete it. I'm not bored of the game at all, and I know when to take breaks. I have plenty of books to read, I draw, I garden, and have other video games to play. Even if I don't play a full week (more than 1 hour on the game), I'm happy to log on and see what's going on. Besides, I'm Legacy and I only have to pay $9.99 a month, so it's not a big deal.

[DamianFatale]

Can this thread just get locked please? It's nothing but toxicity. If you want to quit the game, quit without leaving us a giant mental shit to take care of.

[DamianFatale]

-insert arguing-

This is what I mean. At this point this thread is just a giant mess of emotions. People are scared right now, because they don't know what's going to happen for 4.0.

We just finished 3.0s main story. It's coming to an end, which brings uncertainty. People have a natural instinct to hack at things when they start getting bored. 3.0 had one purpose, and it was to extend the game on a deeper level. It fulfilled that purpose, and now we have to see what 4.0 leads into. All threads like this do is feed on that hydra of negativity. If 4.0 comes, and it doesn't expand on the game even further, then you can cry about it, but honestly nobody sane makes dramatic changes in a first expansion. You have to lay down the grounds for change before you can really take off. It's important to replicate that same success by building off of what is already working. If it isn't broken, why should you try to fix it?

Keep an open mind, and let the coming expansion come when it does. Tired of the similar content? That's reasonable. Just stop moaning about it, and do something productive with your life. Yes, Final Fantasy XIV is fun, but if this is the thing to make the community hack at each others throats, I question what our fanbase is going to become. All things get boring, and stale sometimes! Hell, I've spent most of my life studying music, and even I get bored of it sometimes. There are other things I like doing in addition to the things that I like..

I am so disappointed in everything this community is starting to gravitate toward. This MMORPGs community went from being about kindness, and togetherness, to senseless greed, and elitism. Everyone has to have their way for every thing. If you don't have that one glamour, or that one exclusive minion, then you throw a hissy fit about it. I'm starting to wonder if the days of 2.0 were better, because to get what we wanted, we all had to work together. The most anyone had at the time was a million, and you couldn't get it as easily as today. It was from combat..

If there's going to be a day that I quit, its not going to because of the content, its going to be because of all of the toxic people that participate in forums like these, and duties within the game its self. Please don't make this another World of Warcraft community. Stop being greedy, start being kind, and respectful to not only each other, but the staff members of SE too! They work hard and tirelessly to do what they do, and they deserve some empathy. So Hullbreaker Isle HM wasn't that great, but Instead of complaining, I looked to the silver lining. The first boss of my favorite Final Fantasy (VI) made an appearance, and I got to have an epic fight in front of the admiral, who is one of my favorite characters.

Look to the brighter side of things NA..

[Seraphix2407]

. Hopefully you find something that fulfills your gaming needs.

You know that Yoshida said multiply times he wants more battle content but doesn't get enough resources, but many like me on this thread have said they should spend more time on that than thing's that doesn't really matter much. Like LoV was a huge flop and that could been spent on other battle content etc instead. But yeah by your logic, 95% of people should stop doing dungeons, primals etc because many and I mean many actually screws players over. The only thing that requires a decent amount of brain cell in this game is primals/raids. Everything else is just faceroll content. Many people wants more challenge and weeping city showed how greatful many in the community wants, more content, different things, more rewards that's not copy paste and unique. I get your point however, but why is everyone going nuts that we want more things to do? Most importent different things to do.

Like some people already mentioned, raiding sceene is dead, they made raid finder but it's dead. It's kinda like an useless addition they added. To fix that they need to add more things we can do and most importen (again) is to make things different. Square enix is a company that is doing business, we are their customers and they want to keep them. Pushing them away isn't a way to keep the business rolling and last time I checked, not only raiders keep leaving the game now but people who admit their sub time only want to talk to people when you have discord, skype, whatsapp etc to do that sort of thing.

[RobbieH]

Fair enough, guess the best thing is to wait for 4.0 and see, but that's almost a Year pause. :\