Would you like an in-game parser?

[Xlantaa]

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Well, I use the word causal, cause I have no other word to use. I do not like things like hardcore, casual, PC master race, or whaever, but I didn't find any other word. With this,I was refering to people who log for a bit, do few dungeons, maybe some other things, they log out for the day. People who does not care about what a DPS is or extreme, or even Alexander normal, they only just want log in, play for fun a while, and that's all. They do roulettes or story dungeons or whatever only. They have another way to play, which is not focusing on battling as other players, but use game for few hours of fun and that. I don't not think correct they can find guy telling this people that his DPS suck and should quit game cause blablabla, you know what I mean. I use the casual word cause I don't know how refer them.

In my opinion, I think they shoulnd't suffer the consequences of a bad use of DPS. That's all. That's why I support a personal, high level content parser or preformed party parser only, and keep them away for the low level tier, which I think is not necesary here.

Like I said, if everyone uses it to help other instead of blaming or use it as kicking/discard tool, I will sign myself with blood if necesary for a parser, becaue yes, I want it, (ATC can crash my game cause my PC is shit). But like I said, before, the community need still to mature a lot, to know when they should use it and when not, how use it and which who person. I still consider the comminuty who is reponsible enough to use it in a good way too few compared with the careless(in the way "I don't mind insult you")/asshole community.

I agree with you and the others who support a parser. It can help to improve the player base DPS, but I still fear on the bad use of it. I just don't want give a gun to a monkey (if that expresion have a meaning in english lol, it is a spanish expression) If people can use it in a responsible way, we don't need to worry about and the parser will be safe (not all players,that impossible, but the majority of them). But, you and me, and others here who will not use it in a stupid way are too few compared with all the community.


PD: Yeah, I see you guys around sometimes in Mist :P

[Seraphix2407]

Well, I use the word causal, cause I have no other word to use. I do not like things like hardcore, casual, PC master race, or whaever, but I didn't find any other word. With this,I was refering to people who log for a bit, do few dungeons, maybe some other things, they log out for the day. People who does not care about what a DPS is or extreme, or even Alexander normal, they only just want log in, play for fun a while, and that's all. They do roulettes or story dungeons or whatever only. They have another way to play, which is not focusing on battling as other players, but use game for few hours of fun and that. I don't not think correct they can find guy telling this people that his DPS suck and should quit game cause blablabla, you know what I mean. I use the casual word cause I don't

Okay, since you play on same server as I do, do people really go around talk about those who RP and do dungeons and talk about their dps? Highly doubt it. I really do doubt that. But I will say it again, many don't really care about those people and their numbers. You will have bad attitude people no matter what and where you go and whatever game you play, simple. I wont lie, I've seen people say things like ''go quit the game etc'', but let's be honest, where does this hurtful words usually happen at? Extreme primals and raids I can run 1000 dungeons and maybe see 1 guy talk about someone's dps being low, and not gonna lie I've run many roulettes and rarely see it happens and if it does, it's a very small chance of it happening. The real issue are those who play in primal fights and raids who get's that attitude. I know it's too far being rude about it, but when you are doing primals or raids, you are to expected to play well.

Example, I helped my friends doing seph extreme the other day. My friend isn't excactly the best healer, so put him up with a healer who can solo heal would be ideal if he screws up, his friend didn't do high dps, in fact less than my war but we beat it regardles. Now, if he was in a party finder which he have tried for ages but never beat it, it could occur the fact he and his friend was the players who nerfed the group, no? You see when you going to farm content, people expects people to play well, and not get a free ride. If you aren't doing enough, I would kindly ask them to leave on their own and if they have a bad attitude, I ignore it and won't talk to them again, simple. If this was my own static or friend I would help them much as I can. Problem with random people, many take it the wrong way, but I wont say many haven't accepted my help in terms of rotations etc, because many have indeed. I think many here, including yourself, forget the fact we talk about high end content like primals and raids and people have to step up. Barely anyone mention that you have to be top tier dps in roulettes or 24 man raids.

As for the community using parser, rarely see people call it out, and it's very rare. The big picture is there are few of pro-parsers compare to the people who won't get gud. Simple. If you care to join, do things with me and you will see how ''often'' as you or other people say it happens. Most people make it sound like it happens every time they enter a duty. There are more icemages than those who call out and badmouth people

Because lots of mistakes are actually not tied to DPS checks so it would help people to focus on something else.
Your example is a bit biased, since Hummelfaust is really nothing but a DPS check. And for that, SSS is your friend (It's mine, at least)

As for how I'd figure that out, I'd try using words and see how far it'll go.

Haha, true on SSS, that's pretty much the same. So yes, I agree with you there . Mistakes can be mechanics and rotations. Problem is, ''mistakes'' in therm of dps, isn't a mistake when you drop down 500 dps, dropping down 50-100 is however. But about the SSS part and hummelfaust, you are correct, it's pretty much the same there, but want to know the sad part? I've tried to help groups on my own server for it and woah, full 230 gear and can't beat it? I never said anyting about a person's dps was low, I was saying it was just low for the whole group, but to be honest there was a smn doing 1.2k there when he should done atleast 500-600 more with his gear. But did I tell him? Nope, because that's where the problem comes, they gonna get offended if I was gonna offer them a rotation to follow, and that my friend is what many can't figure out how to fix. Kick them? Nope because then you are an asshole (which many in this thread say it is), or you simply have to accept their dps but can't beat it because hes not doing enough. Sometimes I just disband a whole party and re-invite people that did enough in dps and mechanics and find a replacement for the one who couldn't, this is to avoid to make them feel bad for being behind on the dps check. I know it's a bit harsh but rather do that then tell them they are low on dps and it might hurt their feelings (tbh, which it shouldn't because I feel like I'm a very forgiving guy and would do anything to help that person out) but since many (sadly) gets offended I won't do anything about it. Just being honest. If there was anything that could make them feel less offended, that be great. I think most people would actually adjust themselves on their own if they actually had a tool to begin with, many people fix their own problem, whatever that could be, because they KNOW. For certain if I know/knew I was a screw up in anything and saw it with my own eyes from the very beginning, I would start fix myself than anything.

[Reynhart]

I never said anyting about a person's dps was low, I was saying it was just low for the whole group, but to be honest there was a smn doing 1.2k there when he should done atleast 500-600 more with his gear.

That's why the most important skill in this game...is diplomacy...and why I mostly play with my FC.

The way I see it, if people get offended because you point some of their flaws, even in the most polite way, then parsing them, or telling them to parse themselves will offend them. Anf if they want to improve, they'll find their way with whatever they have, be it an unofficial personal parser, or SSS.

Again, there's no reason to make a poll on that, because a poll means some kind of minority vs majority, whereas each player should be able to chose their personal way of improving.

[Seraphix2407]

That's why the most important skill in this game...is diplomacy...and why I mostly play with my FC.

The way I see it, if people get offended because you point some of their flaws, even in the most polite way, then parsing them, or telling them to parse themselves will offend them. Anf if they want to improve, they'll find their way with whatever they have, be it an unofficial personal parser, or SSS.

Again, there's no reason to make a poll on that, because a poll means some kind of minority vs majority, whereas each player should be able to chose their personal way of improving.

Many times I've helped people who have accepted and it's seriously a great feeling they come back to me super happy knowing they do so much better. Like this DRG did 1.200 on faust in alex 1 savage, helped them out with rotation and it incrased to 1400 or more.

#Datfeeling they come back jumping at me being all happy!. I own my FC and we have so many people who was even afraid doing normal midas because they thought they would screw up on mechanics, so I changed their mind and let them tag along and they did good! Of course their dps could been higher but then again myself and other in FC who does savage didn't or never ever expected them to be top or the best. We simply help them out with it. For those who doesn't do savage in my fc they are fine too, we don't care about their dps, much as many peopel don't care about people's dps outside hard raids. Keep in mind, even if you and I disagree on many points through out the thread, doesn't mean we can't be friends and that's what I also dislike with people having bad attitude towards getting better. They are just doing their own thing and won't care about others. Seing their own reality might give them that kick on their butt to see why people tried to help them in the first place.

To every player in this thread, who it be on ps4 or pc and want to improve and want a parser simply because of that, cheers! I salut people who want to improve and it doesn't matter if they are on ps4 or pc, what I won't support are people who refuses and to me they are just a big bag of bad seed's towards me. If you are one of them, you aren't excactly better than those who are assholes.