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    Cnidarian's Avatar
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    Cnidaria Vaeriat
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Personally, I'm against an in game parser as it will lead to people being more vocal towards those who play sub optimally. While this isn't always a bad thing (as some people are courteous and helpful while being vocal), there are also those that are just plain toxic. I have never seen people harass others personally, but I do know it happens.

    For those who claim that SSS isn't working because clearing the SSS doesn't tell you how well you actually do in the fight, I call BS. If you are skilled enough and know your rotation well enough to clear the SSS requirements without completely outgearing the SSS, then you know when you are under preforming in the actual fight. I can clear the A8S SSS at i222 as a BLM (1800 DPS required for BLM), so I know I have a pretty solid understanding of my rotations and proc/cooldown usage as a BLM.

    I've only cleared SephEX a few times and I know without using a parser that my dps is low for that fight. I know this because I know how to play my job. I know that I'm not completing my rotations properly in the fight due to having to move. I know that sometimes I use a proc too soon instead of saving it for when I do have to move. I know that I messed up by not moving into position sooner by slide casting my way there and thus am losing out on a GCD which adds up to a lot of missed GCDs by the end of the fight. All of this I know not because a parser told me, but because I know my job and I know when and where I made mistakes. I also know that every time I go in there, I improve and get better. I don't need a parser to tell me this either because I know that each time I make fewer mistakes and I get better at prepositioning.

    This is true of all content and is true for all players who truly know how to play their roles. For people who are still learning their roles, they don't need a parser to tell them they how they are performing or if they are improving. We already have a tool that can tell you that which I mentioned previously, the SSS dummies. Pick an encounter appropriate for your ilvl and go from there. If you failed horribly, then you know you need to improve and will seek the information required to improve. A parser isn't going to make you better just because it's telling you that you have low dps. Only the player can make themselves better by seeking the knowledge required and applying it. If the player doesn't want to take this extra step, then a parser isn't going to help them anyways.

    I use the above method for every job I play in order hold my own if you will in any content I choose to bring that job to. At the very least, I read all the guides and the various theory crafting discussions for every job I have at 60 so that I have a firm understanding of that job and their rotations. Because I do this, I'm able to assist players that are open to criticism and are willing to improve that I run into during a DF run. I don't need a parser to tell me if they have low dps, I can tell by looking at their cast bars or character animations and buffs/debuffs if they are preforming their rotation properly. (As a point of reference, I have every job at 60 except 50 MNK and 57 DRK).

    TLDR: Parsers aren't needed for a person to improve, knowledge of their job and a desire to improve is needed for them to improve.
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    Seraphix2407's Avatar
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    Arawn Wymer
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    Omega
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnidarian View Post
    TLDR: Parsers aren't needed for a person to improve, knowledge of their job and a desire to improve is needed for them to improve.
    While I do agree with that, there are certain things you can improve. Even IF you know how to do rotations in fight, as you mentioned, you move alot, gotta do things slightly different in the fight, have to adapt to situation etc, you know it. Problem is, when some one is called out, yes called out for being a low dps and they say their dps is fine when its not, then what? Harrasment? I've even told people I could help them out because their dps is way lower than it should be, but I got reported for it, why?

    I'm not saying you are wrong, not at all, but keep in mind, people have to see with their own eyes why they are not included in fights, because it's either they not doing the job properly or their attitude leaves them not wanting to improve. I like that you try really hard to get better without parser and take time to read guides and such, so mad respect for that! Keep in mind there is a lot higher % of players who refuses to give a damn, than those low % who are ''elitist''

    My argument FOR parser is simply because there are great numbers who refused to get better or feel harrased even if they have bunch of people who are more than willing to teach them how to play. They need to see with their own eyes why, when they do they will maybe understand more? Btw I'm talking about content like primals and raids. Problem is many wants to do those type of content but won't do their job, in this case as DPS. However, if you do 1.1k as BLM and the other is at 1.6k, that's a huge difference right there. Now the parser wont make you great as you stated, you have to see why. So you try different rotations during that phase, and if you improve you keep going if not you have to fix it again. That's what parser is doing.
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