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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Then, at the beginning, ask if others don't mind being parsed, and they'll uncheck their personal "hide damage" option, so that everybody will nicely be on the same page.
    But, if they don't want, then it's their choice. There is no reason to do a "majority wins" here.
    In fact it is 'party leader wins'. Always.
    Like he chooses the content, heis the one who decides if you go unsynched or minimumilvl and he decides if he contributes the loot or you roll for it.
    So why should you not apply that same logic for parsers?
    Party leader decides and all you can do is bail out, if you don't want his settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    In fact it is 'party leader wins'. Always.
    Like he chooses the content, heis the one who decides if you go unsynched or minimumilvl and he decides if he contributes the loot or you roll for it.
    If he chooses a different content than the one he told you, you'll see it when DF pops. You'll also immediately see what loot rule is in place, and if you're synced or not.
    So, lying on these is just dumb. On the other hand, if parsing is not tied to the Duty or a personal option, then you're screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If he chooses a different content than the one he told you, you'll see it when DF pops. You'll also immediately see what loot rule is in place, and if you're synced or not.
    So, lying on these is just dumb. On the other hand, if parsing is not tied to the Duty or a personal option, then you're screwed.
    But that's exactly what i'm talking about.
    Read my post again and the linked one in there, too.

    The way i want to see parsers implemented is exactly like the loot rules, but only available in Ex/Savage content which is not in the DF yet.
    This would also show up when the duty pops. This would be only available for the newest (ex/savage) content until it's outdated (= available per DF).
    This would only be available if you have a full group and everyone clicks on 'yes' (like when you choose to lootmaster).
    This would only work if you trust your partyleader/-members (like lootmaster).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    But that's exactly what i'm talking about.
    Read my post again and the linked one in there, too.
    Ok. I didn't read the linked post.
    I thought you talked about what Play Style you could set in PF.

    But, even then, unofficial parsers would still be usable as a way to go around the settings...like they are now.
    On the other hand, if each player can hide its numbers, then it's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Ok. I didn't read the linked post.
    I thought you talked about what Play Style you could set in PF.

    But, even then, unofficial parsers would still be usable as a way to go around the settings...like they are now.
    On the other hand, if each player can hide its numbers, then it's done.
    May I ask why people want to hide their numbers? I mean okay, I wouldn't mind it, but it's a bit shady when you try to clear something let's say hummelfaust but can't beat it due to DPS check. How can one figure that one out? I know it's somewhat a stupid question but would like to see your reply on that one .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphix2407 View Post
    May I ask why people want to hide their numbers? I mean okay, I wouldn't mind it, but it's a bit shady when you try to clear something let's say hummelfaust but can't beat it due to DPS check. How can one figure that one out? I know it's somewhat a stupid question but would like to see your reply on that one .
    Because lots of mistakes are actually not tied to DPS checks so it would help people to focus on something else.
    Your example is a bit biased, since Hummelfaust is really nothing but a DPS check. And for that, SSS is your friend (It's mine, at least)

    As for how I'd figure that out, I'd try using words and see how far it'll go.
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