SAMURAI SHOWDOWN

[MagiusNecros]

So basically in Katana's words "if new class is tank they must use the shared gear that already exists so I can gear all my tanks up at the same time because I raid and gearing up quickly and efficiently is very convenient for me and my group". Which all that gear is....heavy armor?

Who knows maybe SAM and RDM will both be DPS jobs. And get stuck with Maiming and Casting Gear. Or make RDM a healer. Stuck with healing gear and then suddenly that red mage is always getting the color white on it instead of the thematic red. And if it's casting everything is Black.

And if a new artifact set comes out in the next expansion the jobs will release and you'll end up waiting 3 months on top of that to grind out more tomestones for an additional month just to have a thematic look to the Red Mage or Samurai job. And that's pretty fucking sad.

Oh but dye and glamour. So who cares!

[Katana190]

So basically in Katana's words "if new class is tank they must use the shared gear that already exists so I can gear all my tanks up at the same time because I raid and gearing up quickly and efficiently is very convenient for me and my group". Which all that gear is....heavy armor?

Who knows maybe SAM and RDM will both be DPS jobs. And get stuck with Maiming and Casting Gear. Or make RDM a healer. Stuck with healing gear and then suddenly that red mage is always getting the color white on it instead of the thematic red. And if it's casting everything is Black.

And if a new artifact set comes out in the next expansion the jobs will release and you'll end up waiting 3 months on top of that to grind out more tomestones for an additional month just to have a thematic look to the Red Mage or Samurai job. And that's pretty fucking sad.

Oh but dye and glamour. So who cares!

Sigh.. I guess you just don't understand what I'm trying to get at. Lets take a quick look at some of the tank jobs, just for a moment. Okay so we have PLD, they use plate armor, fending gear makes sense. DRK also uses.. plate armor, so fending gear again makes sense. Now we have WAR, WAR's traditionally use heavy leather armor, so where does that put our big bulky fending gear on WAR? It doesn't fit right.. WAR's should always use heavy leather, so lets also add another set of raiding gear and call it Midan Heavy Leather Armor...

This is my point, don't pull some crap saying but WAR's traditionally can use plate armor, because so can RDM's (according to someone telling me this, tfw I'm a total FF noob)
If you want to keep your theme of RDM that's why the AF armor sets are there, fending gear doesn't represents the job wearing the gear but the role it is, for this instance it is a tank.

My logic comes straight from the developers and I'm trying to work it around them, while yours is in fairy land, while I'm trying to stay realistic. As I said earlier, I could be wrong and you could be right, but unless SE are willing to change how their game's gearing system works, I'm sticking to the confinements of the game and how it works currently.

[MagiusNecros]

This is my point, don't pull some crap saying but WAR's traditionally can use plate armor

Warrior is a mesh of the Warrior, Berserker, and I guess Viking jobs in FF series.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/W...Final_Fantasy)

Proficient in Heavy Armor. Full stop.

Take a Red Mage.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/R...Final_Fantasy)

Proficient in medium grade armor, most of it being light. Though they can use a mix of spells to buff attack and defense.

Take a Samurai.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/S...nal_Fantasy_V)

Proficient in Heavy Armor.

From the tank perspective if we were to stick to Fending gear of the 2 Samurai is already a more viable and easy addition to tanking role. Yet since the SAM class is usually crit based it's more likely to be a physical tank in mainly the OT role. Or just flat DPS.

Red Mage IMO would make an interesting new additional as a Mage Tank but if this is not possible then I suspect it will be a Caster or Healer that will use INT/MND or both as it's attack stat.

[silentwindfr]

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most of this argument are not valid, in the previous FF you hadn't really a tank jobs... since it was a solo game, only rare case you had job a bit more resilient and more fit for face certain boss.
we are beating a dead horse with this subject, since yoshida have said he don't see the samurai as tank.

[MagiusNecros]

most of this argument are not valid, in the previous FF you hadn't really a tank jobs... since it was a solo game, only rare case you had job a bit more resilient and more fit for face certain boss.
we are beating a dead horse with this subject, since yoshida have said he don't see the samurai as tank.

He said he sees it more as a DPS. He never said it wouldn't be a tank.

[Katana190]

Warrior is a mesh of the Warrior, Berserker, and I guess Viking jobs in FF series.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/W...Final_Fantasy)

Proficient in Heavy Armor. Full stop.

Touche.

most of this argument are not valid, in the previous FF you hadn't really a tank jobs... since it was a solo game, only rare case you had job a bit more resilient and more fit for face certain boss.
we are beating a dead horse with this subject, since yoshida have said he don't see the samurai as tank.

This doesn't confirm it will be a DPS...