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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    One: not the only option, but at this point I am repeating myself.
    The options you listed were to do the piecemeal version where you do each of the individual activities at some point, but never get to see the story they're supposed to form, so you have to give up on the idea of ever seeing the climax of the game, or to get lucky enough to get a group that's considerate, which is what you're saying now is not the only option. I'm still not seeing any other options from you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    What "considerations (compromises)" are you making? You are stonewalling.
    I've already discussed the consideration I expect of all sides at some length, but with the thread moving this fast you may have missed or forgotten it. I'll try for a shorter summarized version this time.

    Everyone should be considerate enough to ensure that everyone in the party can get what they're there for. If someone's there for tomes then nobody should do anything that will prevent them from getting that tome reward. (Ok, that part's generally met in these runs, so we're good there already.) If someone's there for the story then nobody should do anything that will prevent the story from unfolding. (That part, however, is usually not being met in most current runs, which is why we keep having threads like this about it.)

    That's the exact same consideration requirement on both sides. A compromise would only be called for if it were impossible to meet both sides of that condition, but it's not. My argument all along has been to not choose one side or the other, but to meet all goals that anyone has, just as you would be expected to do in any other content. The only difference here in these specific dungeons is that one of the goals takes quite a while, but that's by SE's design.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 03-24-2016 at 07:52 AM.