Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Ossom]

Ossom,

Out of curiosity, when do you apply fracture and do you maintain 100% uptime with it?

Currently, I apply fracture when it falls off but only on rotations where I will not have to reapply ToD. If I have to reapply ToD during that rotation, I will not reapply fracture until the following one. "Rotation" being DK > TS > SP > BS > Tru > SP/Demo. Though I do end up clipping a good amount of my Demos.

It shouldn't have a 100% uptime at all, for instance, I think I apply it 2, maybe 3 times within a 2minute rotation. Demolish expects 9 GCDs before it gets reapplied, without ToD and Fracture, you will see 8 GCDs inbetween each Demolish, so you need a filler skill inbetween each of those Demolishes. Since Touch of Death has a longer Duration than Demolish, you can't reapply ToD inbetween each Demolish, so you need a second filler skill too, that is where Fracture comes in.

Along with that you need to make sure you don't apply both a Fracture and a Touch of Death during the same Dragon Kick buff, or it will drop.

[Ossom]

Are you saying it might be bad to not use fracture as a filler with all of our speed?

No matter what your SS you probably wanna use Fracture, unless you have like 1K+ SS because of the changes to Demolish in 3.0

[MonkDace]

With respect to gear, is a full set of the Eikon stuff worthwhile or is the lore stuff still better? Kinda wondering just how powerful pentamelded eikon pieces are at this point. From the perspective of someone who doesn't do Midas Savage, that is.

[Critical-Limit]

If it's a really really really long fight where I expect to starve on TP. I'll still open with forbidden chakra. But instead of fracture during that moment I'll use meditate. So I can build up and get the TP move.

Not sure if this is even a good idea but it feels right lol

[SunnyHirose]

As a general thing, Lore has higher performance even though you won't be able to upgrade it for now. Especially seeing how there's no crafted equivalent to Lore weapons. Is the potential there for a specific Eikonic pentameld to outdo a specific non-upgraded Lore piece when you disregard the effects of accuracy? Yes, with all Vs I'm pretty sure you can make a slightly better necklace. Yet that too will be inferior to the upgraded piece and for a pointless cost.

Thing is, though, you can get a full Eikonic set in a single day if you have the resources (time, gil, connections). Lore is locked out no matter how well you play or how much you farm.

[Ossom]

If it's a really really really long fight where I expect to starve on TP. I'll still open with forbidden chakra. But instead of fracture during that moment I'll use meditate. So I can build up and get the TP move.

Not sure if this is even a good idea but it feels right lol

Using meditate when you can instead hit the boss is never the right thing to do. Its a huge DPS lost, especially since that Fracture should be buffed by like Xpot/Ir/B4B and you are dropping it to instead do a meditate.

[Krindor]

If it's a really really really long fight where I expect to starve on TP. I'll still open with forbidden chakra. But instead of fracture during that moment I'll use meditate. So I can build up and get the TP move.

Not sure if this is even a good idea but it feels right lol

Fracture + Purification wins out in longer fights vs FC. Around the 100 sec mark is when using fracture will actually be better than using FC. The second reason is that at the current SkS bloat you'll run out of TP before 2nd invigorate so with purification you'll be able to last until then and for a longer fight you'll last longer.

[Cold_Raven]

I also play on PS4. The opener is :

Perfect Balance > Snap > Snap > Demo > Dragon Kick > Blood 4 Blood > Twin Snakes > Internal Release > Bootshine > X-Pot > Touch of Death > Elixir Field > True Strike > Howling Fists > Snap Punch > Steel Peak > Dragon Kick > Shoulder Tackle > Twin Snakes > Forbidden Chakra > Fracture > Demolish > Bootshine

Hello.

I don't main Monk, but I like to play them.
I have a couple of quick noob questions, and I'm hoping for some input.

Perfect Balance - So, the point is to only get your 3 stacks, and then start with Bootshine? Because doing more Snaps is a DPS loss? Does that mean PB should only ever be used as part of an opener and never during the middle of a fight if it becomes available again?

Placement of IR in this opener right before Bootshine - IR gives a better chance to crit, right? But Bootshine is a guaranteed crit if you hit your behind-positional, right? Therefore, isn't the IR wasted for a GCD if you do it right before Bootshine? The Bootshine is going to crit anyway, so maybe IR after the Bootshine instead to let it go for one for GCD before it falls off? Or has this sort of thing been tested and it doesn't matter anyway?

[Ossom]

Perfect Balance : The point of Perfect Balance at the start is to get your 5 Buffs up in the most optimal way possible. These Buffs/Debuffs are Greased Lightning 1, Greased Lightning 2, Greased Lightning 3, Dragon Kick Debuff on Boss, Twin Snakes Buff. So every opener will have you use 5 skills that each apply one of these debuffs/buffs before you do any other attacking skill, its a DPS loss to do anything else, these buffs are the bread and butter of Monk's consistent damage.

Placement of Internal Release before the first Bootshine : Bootshine only gives you a 100% Crit if you are in Opo-Opo Form. But when Perfect Balance drops, you are formless, so this Bootshine does not gain the Opo-Opo form bonus and will not give you a guaranteed Crit, you can actually change this Bootshine with a Dragon Kick and as long as you get the Flank Positional for the Dragon Kick, you'll end up with the exact same Potency, since the Dragon Kick won't refresh the Debuff either.

Edit: Perfect Balance during the middle of the Fight : I personally do not use Perfect Balance in the middle of a fight unless its for spamming Rockbreaker in a PUG group/Dungeon. I've found that during raids, wiping is the name of the game. Wiping over and over for hours on end. This means that if I start using Perfect balance in the middle of a fight for anything other than regaining GL3 swiftly and we wipe shortly after, either the group needs to wait for my PB (Unlikely) or we pull without my PB (Which is the worst feeling as a Monk IMHO).

[Cold_Raven]

But when Perfect Balance drops, you are formless, so this Bootshine does not gain the Opo-Opo form bonus and will not give you a guaranteed Crit...

Ha! Yeah, I missed that. Cool, thanks.

Then once this opener is completed, I'm guessing the main monk rotation just kicks in? Which would be doing the 3-stage combo flipping between Twin Snakes and True Strike while popping the DoTs back on as they fall off and weaving in all off-GCDs (...to describe it in a condensed nutshell), right?