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Thread: Cleric Stance

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    just not as effective as an actual dps job. I
    Personally as a healer I blame SE for the current healing meta.

    It is sadly a fact that nothing in this game requires constant healing so either the healers stand around making idle conversation or they contribute to the DPS.

    If SE changed the fights in future to require healers to heal full time I don't think many would complain about lack of DPSing time then.
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    Agreed. Otherwise, stop giving new abilities post 50 that are solely for DMG (Broil, Stone 3, Aero 3..etc); if you keep giving new dmg abilities, you're implying that there's a dmg factor into the class/job. Then you have to choose to be either good at your heals or good at your landing your spells. 30% flat miss chance is bs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    While I'd approve of the raiding meta moving more into full-time healing and away from "main heal/off-healer that sometimes helps but mostly DPSes", I think it's pretty ludicrous that I'm missing so many of my spells in faceroll content when I have nothing better to do than help make the run go more efficiently.
    Exactly. I feel like cleric should at least provide enough of an accuracy buff to avoid missing in things like expert roulette etc. Maybe some melds required for higher content caps. I have no issue with the meta moving toward a full time healing sort of deal but...that means I expect healing difficulty and mechanics in content to keep me occupied and also not to get saddled with more dps moves if they don't seem to want me using them in dungeons etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Personally as a healer I blame SE for the current healing meta.

    It is sadly a fact that nothing in this game requires constant healing so either the healers stand around making idle conversation or they contribute to the DPS.

    If SE changed the fights in future to require healers to heal full time I don't think many would complain about lack of DPSing time then.
    There's no constant stream of outgoing damage on the tanks, because things like auto attacks hit for like wet noodles on even non-tanks. They do their weaponskill (or as I'd call it, "tank-checks) that hit relatively harder to make sure their target is actually a tank and would survive it, such as Thordan's cleave or stinger cell from the second boss in SMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Cleric Stance
    Turns 100% of Skill Speed into Accuracy

    Fixed.
    Only if DoM gear have skill speed instead of spell speed


    Why not just asking for accuracy on DoM weapons?
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    It'd be a nice change, but it really wouldn't change much. The only reason for a healer to DPS is to carry bad DPS, whether it's because they don't have the gear or they don't have the rotation down. I still think cleric should be nerfed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Only if DoM gear have skill speed instead of spell speed


    Why not just asking for accuracy on DoM weapons?
    Because it's healers who hit and miss because of this issue from my understanding and free time with cleric stance is the only time a healer should DPS at all, acc on wep won't affect us hitting the tank with our cures.

    (without cleric, our dps is poo.)
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    Been surprised accuracy is still even a thing in FF14. No on actually likes the accuracy stat. We only take it because we have to, and considering we have to meet an item level requirement to do duties anyway. What's the point? I've been happy with not having to balance accuracy on my healer gear, but now it's simply disappointing whenever I miss. As more content comes out our chance to hit probably goes down too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Only if DoM gear have skill speed instead of spell speed


    Why not just asking for accuracy on DoM weapons?
    Since they are pretty much the same thing I don't see the difference lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    It'd be a nice change, but it really wouldn't change much. The only reason for a healer to DPS is to carry bad DPS, whether it's because they don't have the gear or they don't have the rotation down. I still think cleric should be nerfed...
    This is an extremely silly thing to say.

    At times can a healer help carry bad dps? Sure

    But the ONLY reason for a healer to dps...no...just no
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