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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaegarFFXIFenrir View Post
    End game raid and token gear are coming with materia sockets. As these gears are not crafted, we shouldn't have to hunt down a crafter in order to meld materia into them.
    I couldn't agree more... I was just coming to the forms to create this thread if it didn't exist... I am fine if they keep it for crafted gear, or at least crafting/gathering gear... But for the new slots, I wish they just set it free to allow anyone to meld gear if they had the items.

    I have my crafts able to do most of this, back in 2.0 I still wanted the ability to free this system from crafting. I get that they want to keep it crafting relevant, but it is, I don't think removing mateira from their skill set will hurt them much, but rather drive up demand for materia, making more and more people use it, because it isn't a pain to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I couldn't agree more... I was just coming to the forms to create this thread if it didn't exist... I am fine if they keep it for crafted gear, or at least crafting/gathering gear... But for the new slots, I wish they just set it free to allow anyone to meld gear if they had the items.

    I have my crafts able to do most of this, back in 2.0 I still wanted the ability to free this system from crafting. I get that they want to keep it crafting relevant, but it is, I don't think removing mateira from their skill set will hurt them much, but rather drive up demand for materia, making more and more people use it, because it isn't a pain to do so.
    It wouldn't hurt crafting in the slightest. Right now it's just an EPEEN thing with crafters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    It wouldn't hurt crafting in the slightest. Right now it's just an EPEEN thing with crafters.
    It's not even a epeen thing, it's a mechanic designed for people to bring people together, how hard is it for people just to ask nicely for a meld.

    I have to say it's funny watching 10 - 15 crafters all rush to someone to give them free melds though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    I couldn't agree more... I was just coming to the forms to create this thread if it didn't exist... I am fine if they keep it for crafted gear, or at least crafting/gathering gear... But for the new slots, I wish they just set it free to allow anyone to meld gear if they had the items.

    I have my crafts able to do most of this, back in 2.0 I still wanted the ability to free this system from crafting. I get that they want to keep it crafting relevant, but it is, I don't think removing mateira from their skill set will hurt them much, but rather drive up demand for materia, making more and more people use it, because it isn't a pain to do so.
    It isn't even a pain, just ask it's all you have to do, ask nicely and people literally line up to do the meld for you, and expect nothing, those who expect something usually just expect the word thanks and that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blindfoldedkaos View Post
    It isn't even a pain, just ask it's all you have to do, ask nicely and people literally line up to do the meld for you, and expect nothing, those who expect something usually just expect the word thanks and that's it.
    Correct, it isn't a pain to ask, and I don't have an issue asking or doing that myself. But this system isn't needed anymore, and just because there are those who don't have an issue asking, doesn't mean there are other players who want to ask, or know how to ask...

    What's the reason that crafters need to do this? Not the lore reason, but the real reason this is even needed anymore. It just seems like a silly extra step in melding materia that now we can just meld if we have the crafter level needed, seems silly and unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmontyb View Post
    What's the reason that crafters need to do this? Not the lore reason, but the real reason this is even needed anymore. It just seems like a silly extra step in melding materia that now we can just meld if we have the crafter level needed, seems silly and unnecessary.
    To make all disciples part of the materia feature (designed with that idea back in 1.x)

    DoM & DoW - produce the materias with spiritbinding gears
    DoL - gather the catalysts
    DoH - meld materia into gear

    it's the holy trinity of materia, supposed to make people work together
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    To make all disciples part of the materia feature (designed with that idea back in 1.x)

    DoM & DoW - produce the materias with spiritbinding gears
    DoL - gather the catalysts
    DoH - meld materia into gear

    it's the holy trinity of materia, supposed to make people work together
    Correct, that was the original reason, and at the time it made really good since, but I stand by my point that there are so many things that crafters take part in, like making the catalysts for glamorous (just one example) that I hope we can move away from this old idea. (Again, at the time it was great, but now I don't think it's needed)

    Still. I wouldn't mind saying, anyone can meld to open slots, but if you want to advance meld, then you'll need the crafter discipline to do so.
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